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rdaner
Senior Member
^Great image! Apparently there is going to be public art on the retaining wall.
Traycer
New Member
Just imagine the view from Cherry St a year from now...
christiesplits
Senior Member
Toronto Star: Port Lands gas plant emissions seven times too high for new development at mouth of Don River
www.thestar.com
Port Lands gas plant emissions seven times too high for new development at mouth of Don River
Nitrogen oxide levels are far above legal limits at the height of a planned development at Villiers Island, an air quality assessment has found. The result could put a cap
www.thestar.com
Northern Light
Superstar
Toronto Star: Port Lands gas plant emissions seven times too high for new development at mouth of Don River
Port Lands gas plant emissions seven times too high for new development at mouth of Don River
Nitrogen oxide levels are far above legal limits at the height of a planned development at Villiers Island, an air quality assessment has found. The result could put a cap
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A full read suggests even w/sealed windows/no balconies heights at/above 35s may be imperiled.
I'd have to read the underlying study to more carefully assess the impact. I will. Its attached to the 309 Cherry St. files.
There is also an implication that this may impact the East Harbour site as well.
Link to the 309 Cherry App for purposes of accessing the above study:
Application Details
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PL1
Active Member
The story mentions the plant's contract was recently extended to 2034. Hopefully the contract will not be renewed, and tower construction can proceed then. It may depend which party rules in Ontario when it's time to renew the contract!Key bit from the above:
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A full read suggests even w/sealed windows/no balconies heights at/above 35s may be imperiled.
I'd have to read the underlying study to more carefully assess the impact. I will. Its attached to the 309 Cherry St. files.
There is also an implication that this may impact the East Harbour site as well.
Link to the 309 Cherry App for purposes of accessing the above study:
Application Details
W. K. Lis
Superstar
How many solar panels and wind turbines (the designs have improved) would be needed to replace the gas plant? In addition, the air conditioning to most of the buildings could be attached to the Enwave Deep Lake Water Cooling network.
jxmyth_
Active Member
Wow. I mean, they spoke about residency in 2030. So maybe everyone can hold their breath for four years? Also, I don’t know if I’d even trust sealed windows
Northern Light
Superstar
Solar panels and Wind Turbines cannot be used to replace baseload power unless and until Ontario has energy storage that will hold the resulting power for future use. That is do-able, but is not yet available in Ontario (though it may be soon)
That said, the PEC is a 550MW, expanding to 600MW facility.
Which works out to ~150 Wind Turbines.
christiesplits
Senior Member
Key bit from the above:
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A full read suggests even w/sealed windows/no balconies heights at/above 35s may be imperiled.
I'd have to read the underlying study to more carefully assess the impact. I will. Its attached to the 309 Cherry St. files.
There is also an implication that this may impact the East Harbour site as well.
Link to the 309 Cherry App for purposes of accessing the above study:
Application Details
Alternatively, could we just build taller smokestacks?
evandyk
Senior Member
I saw some tweets on this topic and apparently all the buildings in this area have to have non-operable windows because of airport noise?
Richard White
Senior Member
I manage a property in Corktown adjacent to the Don River. We don't have any issues there with windows, noise or smells.
jxmyth_
Active Member
Hrm, maybe flight path, height and proximity factor in. Nobody in the area is THAT close to flight paths or at that height to really know how bad the noise is. But there’s plenty of towers along the lake near the airport that wouldn’t have been built if that was the case, no?
rdaner
Senior Member
Am I the only one to see this as the opening salvo of a negotiation? The opening of the Leslie Lookout Park is happening on Saturday and the lots around it are up for lease. I am not worried as this is just a way to extract $ before they announce the closing date of the plant.
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afransen
Senior Member
We could probably just replace the plant with a utility scale battery installation and leverage underutilized transmission capacity at night to charge it. The plant can produce 600 MW.
Another Tesla battery site in Ontario is rated for 250 MW output on a portion of a 10 acre plot. In marketing material, Tesla claims they can site such a plant on 3 acres, so the 10 acre or so Portlands Energy Centre could in theory be replaced with stationary batteries. Of course, given the utility scale batteries don't produce noxious emissions, it's probably a bit more flexible where this could be sited.