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[TransitBart]

The plan is to store about 60 or so units at each of Roncesvalles and Russell - thus the construction currently going on at Roncy - but Leslie is capable of holding almost 150 cars on its own. This is why the total order, including options, was for 264 cars. This was the absolute maximum number of cars that could be stored using the existing infrastructure without having to build another yard somewhere.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Ignoring the maintenance aspect, is there a storage yard extant at Hillcrest?

 

[TransitBart]

Also. I wondered if lengthening the ladder tracks onto the street (Eastern Ave) at Russell three years back had to do with making them a length closer to an actual multiple of the length of a 5-segment Flexity car. Eyeballing it, no more than three and since there are about 20 tracks that fits with your 60 storage capacity statement.

 

[smallspy]

Ignoring the maintenance aspect, is there a storage yard extant at Hillcrest?

There is none, and there isn't the room to fit one there, either.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[dowlingm]

There is none, and there isn't the room to fit one there, either.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

Here's the TTC Hillcrest Strategy Document:
https://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commis...ports/13_Hillcrest_Complex_Property_Study.pdf

In theory Davenport Garage and Patten Building could be sacrificed to park enough Flexities to operate 512 and maybe more to reduce non-revenue mileage, but instead the strategy document eyes the site perimeter for redevelopment. I've often been puzzled about why major bus maintenance/rebuilding continues out of Duncan Shops (which has had recent reinvestment) rather than somewhere a bit more industrial and with convenient access to DVP, 427 or 401. How much crossover can there be between Harvey and Duncan?

 

[smallspy]

Here's the TTC Hillcrest Strategy Document:
https://ttc.ca/About_the_TTC/Commis...ports/13_Hillcrest_Complex_Property_Study.pdf

In theory Davenport Garage and Patten Building could be sacrificed to park enough Flexities to operate 512 and maybe more to reduce non-revenue mileage, but instead the strategy document eyes the site perimeter for redevelopment. I've often been puzzled about why major bus maintenance/rebuilding continues out of Duncan Shops (which has had recent reinvestment) rather than somewhere a bit more industrial and with convenient access to DVP, 427 or 401. How much crossover can there be between Harvey and Duncan?

There is a lot of crossover - Harvey Shops is where all bodywork and interior work is done on all surface vehicles, and where some of the lighter mechanical work is done for the buses. All major mechanical and structural work for the buses is done at Duncan.

That said, with the opening of the Leslie Barns and the shift of all of the work for the LFLRVs there, there is no reason why a new facility couldn't be designed and created specifically for the buses in a place more convenient for them. Things like motor winding and other electrical work could be done at Wilson on some of the still unused property there, and there's no reason why the upholstery shop couldn't be moved there, either. Subway ops could go to any number of different locations that aren't Hillcrest. While there would definitely have to be some thought given to how to deal with some of the departments that haven't been listed yet - track and structures will need a permanent home, as will revenue, and I don't think that they're in a position to rebuild the Control Centre already - but it seems to me that there is little reason to stay at Hillcrest past the next 5 years or so.

Dan
Toronto, Ont.

 

[EastYorkTTCFan]

I don't think that they're in a position to rebuild the Control Centre already - but it seems to me that there is little reason to stay at Hillcrest past the next 5 years or so.

I think the current plan is that once the vision system is up and running on all buses and streetcars that trasit control will take over all controal of surface vechels from Hillcrest, rather then each garage and barn being responsible for there group of buses.

 

[Midtown Urbanist]

I think these photos are the first time I have actually gotten a good look of what the Leslie Barns actually looks like, as a whole structure/compound. It actually is quite beautiful. A gem even, that is hidden from the rest of us behind that wall.

Riverdale #24 by Michael Muraz, on Flickr

Riverdale #26 by Michael Muraz, on Flickr

 

[Riverdale Rink Rat]

Probably wrong thread, but what’s under construction on SW corner of Commissioners and Leslie? Massive new project of some kind.

 

[ChesterCopperpot]

Postal Sorting Station

https://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threa...rs-canada-post-1s-kingsland-architects.28597/

 

[drum118]

Double posting

TTC's Leslie Barns opens doors for United Way fundraiser

October 23, 2018

This Sat., Oct. 27, the TTC is inviting the public to take a behind the scenes peek at its Leslie Barns facility at an Open House benefitting the United Way.

Guests of all ages can enjoy a variety of activities, including guided tours, a silent auction, food and entertainment, access to the virtual streetcar simulator and streetcar rides as well as a car and motorcycle show.

Date: Sat., Oct. 27, 2018
Time: 11 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Where: Leslie Barns, 1165 Lake Shore Blvd. E.
Admission: Pay what you can - all donations go to the United Way

How to get there: Take Line 2 (Bloor-Danforth) to Donlands Station and take the 83 Jones bus southbound to Leslie St. and Lake Shore Blvd. E.; or take the 501 Queen streetcar to Leslie St. and walk south or take the 83 Jones bus southbound at Leslie St.

 

[Allandale25]

I think these photos are the first time I have actually gotten a good look of what the Leslie Barns actually looks like, as a whole structure/compound. It actually is quite beautiful. A gem even, that is hidden from the rest of us behind that wall.

What's being built to the east of it?

 

[nfitz]

What's being built to the east of it?

Sewage treatment plant expansion. Presumably there's details at https://www.toronto.ca/services-pay...aylor-massey-creek-and-inner-harbour-program/

Also see https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...on-sewage-and-stormwater-overflow-tunnel.html

 

[innsertnamehere]

It's the stormwater overflow tunnel. $400 million project.

 

[mdrejhon]

That's quite the barn. One of the best aerial photo of the new Leslie facility I've ever seen.

 

[TransitBart]

Thanks to this thread, I had the opportunity to visit Leslie Barns yesterday. It was great to get inside and also to have an opportunity to contribute to Toronto United Way. Lots of families and children. This photo highlights one of the best features of the visit - FOOD!

Flexity or LFLRV truck - head on - compared to older technology, remarkably simple.

Flexity truck - angle view - the AC motors are tiny and remarkably powerful. They are also on the 'outside' which was a surprise to me. First time I had seen one. The skirts hide all the action when in service as we know.

Flexity on hoist. Who knew it was so easy to look underneath? Actually, the next two bays are built to service from underneath without raising the vehicle.

Flexity from underneath. All sealed up against the elements. Very simple.

Trolley pole contact shoes showing graphite inserts. Remarkably small.

This building is large.

LEGO Peter Witt

LEGO CLRV

LEGO Flexity LFLRV

We drive on the parkway. And we park in the driveway.

So if you go to a carwash for your car, does a streetcar go to a streetcar carwash or a streetcarwash?

Anyway - rotten video - don't do many of those, but here is a little trip through the Leslie Barns washrack.