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MetroMan said:
They did a much larger portion (the entire paving from the ticket booths to here) in just a few weeks. They could do it in two segments to allow an entrance on one side, then switch. There's plenty of space.
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Actually the first part started in late 2017 and took several months - until early May. It was certainly more complex due to the steps and the Layton statue but ….
I guess you have never been at the Docks on a summer weekend; it gets VERY crowded and it really makes far more sense to do it, as they are, over two 'off-seasons.
 
DSC said:
Actually the first part started in late 2017 and took several months - until early May. It was certainly more complex due to the steps and the Layton statue but ….
I guess you have never been at the Docks on a summer weekend; it gets VERY crowded and it really makes far more sense to do it, as they are, over two 'off-seasons.
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Framing the pavement area, installing gutters, paving with cobblestones, and planting all the trees took under 3 weeks. I know because I walk through there almost every day. The site sat quiet for months then all of a sudden they started working and finished everything in a few weeks. The remaining section is a fraction of the size of the entire project and it’s a straightforward piece with no obstacles or curves.
 
MetroMan said:
Framing the pavement area, installing gutters, paving with cobblestones, and planting all the trees took under 3 weeks. I know because I walk through there almost every day. The site sat quiet for months then all of a sudden they started working and finished everything in a few weeks. The remaining section is a fraction of the size of the entire project and it’s a straightforward piece with no obstacles or curves.
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Framing etc followed a major excavation and lots of underground work. I too would like to have had it all done in one go but I bet if they had keot going and we had rain etc to delay completion there would have been many complaints here. Doing part 2 in the fall is really not a major problem.
 
He says in the video on Twitter that "we've [muffled - secured dollars?] to rebuild the Toronto Ferry Terminal" and that the money is from a development on Front Street. However, I remember seeing that there was something like 9 million secured from phase 2 of Sugar Wharf and from phase 2 of One Yonge, and that money won't flow for a few years at least. And given that, I have a hard time believing one development on Front Street could provide the many millions of dollars seemingly needed to fully fund the ferry terminal reno.

So, I'm thinking this is just a reference to some more money being secured for the terminal, but not that it's fully funded. But I hope I'm wrong!
 
Star Fox said:
He says in the video on Twitter that "we've [muffled - secured dollars?] to rebuild the Toronto Ferry Terminal" and that the money is from a development on Front Street. However, I remember seeing that there was something like 9 million secured from phase 2 of Sugar Wharf and from phase 2 of One Yonge, and that money won't flow for a few years at least. And given that, I have a hard time believing one development on Front Street could provide the many millions of dollars seemingly needed to fully fund the ferry terminal reno.

So, I'm thinking this is just a reference to some more money being secured for the terminal, but not that it's fully funded. But I hope I'm wrong!
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It may be monies from be the 171 Front development which is the Dominion Public building at Front and Yonge which the Feds via Canada Lands Corporation sold for (IIRC) $250 million.
 
mrxbombastic said:
It may be monies from be the 171 Front development which is the Dominion Public building at Front and Yonge which the Feds via Canada Lands Corporation sold for (IIRC) $250 million.
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The Dominion Public Building is actually 1 Front St west and it was sold by the Canada Lands Corporation - as far as I know all their 'profits' are returned to the government's general revenue account and not 'reallocated'. Adam MAY have managed to have $$$ allocated to the JLFT (and I hope he has) but I will only believe it when I see the 'colour of his money'.
 
I noticed today that the unfinished part of the walkway just south of Queens Quay is now fenced off so assume they are starting work on finishing this off before spring 2019.
 
DSC said:
I noticed today that the unfinished part of the walkway just south of Queens Quay is now fenced off so assume they are starting work on finishing this off before spring 2019.
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Indeed -- from the latest WT newsletter:

Fall/Winter construction at the Jack Layton Ferry Terminal
On October 9, construction crews remobilized and work resumed on Phase 1A of the Jack Layton Ferry Terminal and Harbour Square Park project. This fall, crews will complete the remaining 30 metres of the entrance promenade including granite mosaic paving, seven new trees, and updated lighting throughout Harbour Square Park. Construction is scheduled to be completed in January 2019. For more information, please read our latest construction notice.
 
A knee-jerk driven memorial and very poor choice of name for a defining feature of Toronto that Layton had absolutely nothing to do with. Gardiner Expressway, on account of Mr. Gardiner. Nathan Phillips Square, on account of Mr. Phillips. Crombie Park, sure. Perhaps a Jack Layton parkette in downtown, but this massive and internationally experienced icon. Hardly. Politicians praising politicians. Infuriates me.
 
Christopher Brown said:
A knee-jerk driven memorial and very poor choice of name for a defining feature of Toronto that Layton had absolutely nothing to do with. Gardiner Expressway, on account of Mr. Gardiner. Nathan Phillips Square, on account of Mr. Phillips. Crombie Park, sure. Perhaps a Jack Layton parkette in downtown, but this massive and internationally experienced icon. Hardly. Politicians praising politicians. Infuriates me.
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It’s not that he inspired it or pushed for it, rather that he was a frequent flyer. But your point about politicians praising politicians stands and Dan Leckie Way is another monument to a milquetoast 70s Toronto city councillor who achieved nothing that I know of of particular note.
 
"Renaming the Toronto Island Ferry Terminal in memory of Jack is a fitting tribute. Not only did he represent waterfront communities during his career as an elected representative, but he was also a great supporter of the Island Public School and helped save Island residents’ homes,"
-Rob Ford
 
grey said:
"Renaming the Toronto Island Ferry Terminal in memory of Jack is a fitting tribute. Not only did he represent waterfront communities during his career as an elected representative, but he was also a great supporter of the Island Public School and helped save Island residents’ homes,"
-Rob Ford
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What he and others of a similar Socialist mind did was ensure those folks continued to enjoy an unmatched urban cottage country setting and hugely subsidized lifestyle all at Toronto's taxpayers expense.

If you doubt they're getting a free ride, everyone in the Six who would like to have a 'cottage' in the city (for bupkus) and never have to make the trip to Muskoka or Georgian Bay or Lake Simcoe or Prince Edward County every weekend, raise your hands.

Oh, and as for getting to a fro, NP. Toronto pays for the ferries to run the 8 months of the year when the tourists depart in September.

Worth note, the leasehold interest Jack & Co. rammed thru was so one-sided in the favor of those poor besieged islanders they were able to tear down the shacks and build magnificent homes their children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren can enjoy for another 80 years remaining, plus renewals for another 100 years no doubt when the time comes to play the sympathy card once more.

Want to make it fair for all? Charge market rents for the land. See how fast they head to the ferries, never to return.

In the meantime, we get to hear them whine about noise from the City and the hassle of visitors wandering their streets. Entitled to entitlements, indeed.
 
From today.

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