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mdrejhon said:
My view:

It ain't good news, but while it's definitely higher than $1B, they are trying to exaggerate the value -- throwing in the 30 year operating costs plus a lot of other frills not included in the original $1B -- as Cons excuse to try to blame the Liberals. The question is what politics theatrics occur to keep the LRT on track, even if it has to be scaled back to the Traffic Circle, and/or obtain Fed funding pitch-in.
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Cobra said:
In a minority government environment, the liberals could be tempted to come a save the day.

They committed to Montreal's Pink Line while the Quebec provincial government had bo time for it.

Now, it will depend on how bad Hamilton City council is willing to fight for it and somehow I'm not sure they'll be as relentless as Montreal
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I don't see the Feds intervening. The LRT runs mostly through Hamilton Centre, which might be the safest NDP seat in the country. Ridings on the outer edges of the line, Hamillton West - Ancaster and Hamilton East - Stoney Creek (Bob Bratina's seat), are more suburban and less warm towards the LRT.
 
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mjl08 said:
I don't see the Feds intervening. The LRT runs mostly through Hamilton Centre, which might be the safest NDP seat in the country. Ridings on the outer edges of the line, Hamillton West - Ancaster and Hamilton East - Stoney Creek (Bob Bratina's seat), are more suburban and less warm towards the LRT.
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I really don't understand why Hamilton has been hesitant about LRT even in the suburbs. LRT is a city building project. The reaction in Ottawa is totally the opposite. Despite the early hiccups with Phase 1, Phase 2 and even 3 can't be built fast enough. I guess we have had this hesitation also in Brampton, where city council has flip-flopped. Of course, we can see the awful politics with Doug Ford wanting to get back at Patrick Brown, as Brampton mayor. I can see the cities moving ahead with rail transit are going to become the more attractive cities to live in, especially in long-term. So I figure this decision is going to leave Hamilton behind as it tries to compete for business and residents.
 
Next month Ford announces a mini brt on metal wheels transit solution. Calling it the Oskee wee wee line it will be fundamentally the same as the cancelled LRT only with an altered routing and smaller/narrower buses on metal wheels that no one has seen yet.
 
I guess Hamilton doesn't have enough votes for Doug to care.

What happened to finding 'efficiencies' and being able to build these projects cheaper than other parties?

Is Doug going to apply these standards to other major transit projects?
 
Woodbridge_Heights said:
Next month Ford announces a mini brt on metal wheels transit solution. Calling it the Oskee wee wee line it will be fundamentally the same as the cancelled LRT only with an altered routing and smaller/narrower buses on metal wheels that no one has seen yet.
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BREAKING | Ontario transport minister Caroline Mulroney to announce new Oskee wee wee line, featuring a cross-platform transfer at Hamilton GO station. News conference at 3pm.
 
Armoured convoy escorts Caroline Mulroney out of Hamilton

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After announcing the Ford government was cancelling Hamilton’s LRT, Ontario’s Transportation Minister Caroline Mulroney was escorted out of the city.​
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Ten LAV III and two Leopard man battle tanks were summoned to the downtown area crushing any vehicles that stood in the Minister’s way.​
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“This LRT system will cost taxpayers 2 trillion cents over 120 years,” said Mulroney behind bullet-proof glass to an empty room. “We didn’t know of the full extent of when we converted Canadian dollars into Mexican pesos. It looks so much more expensive, and the Liberals were lying to Ontarians for years by not converting the numbers.”​
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Close air support was called in the event a city councillor threw a live question at the minister outside of the building about the project’s sudden cancellation or attempted to detonate a dissenting opinion.​
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“In the end, Hamilton gets a better deal by requiring everyone to buy a car and wait in traffic,” added Mulroney putting on her flak jacket and tightening her VIP helmet.​
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The convoy was given orders to only shoot at things that could give Mulroney and the PC government bad publicity.​
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According to sources, Hamilton Mayor Fred Eisenberger was run over by the convoy after Mulroney gave the order not to stop in any circumstances until the convoy got back to the Toronto bunker.​
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For the People.

Hope all these plans / studies done don't go to waste. The project could be resurrected if the next provincial government wants to reverse the cancellation.

At least Hamilton still gets 1 Billion for transportation projects. If this happened in London (or anywhere outside Metrolinx's jurisdiction) all the money might just go poof, plus all the cancelation fees / lawsuits to come. Good thing we we went with 1/2 a BRT system vs full LRT... that would have likely been completely canned too.

Does Hamilton have any backup plans for to turn this into BRT instead? Maybe that could be a compromise.
 
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