Toronto East Harbour | 214.2m | 65s | Cadillac Fairview | Adamson

[maestro]

Can someone explain to me why Montreal was able to maintain the Molson building and keep it with history but yet Toronto on this project was not able to. Once again Toronto not willing to keep its history within architecture. Montreal project not make 65 story towers either but yet we have to with every monster project. We need more architects passionate about Toronto like the architect who is designing that Molson project, even in his words he says he wants Montrealers to be proud of the final product, Toronto architects could care less it seems. And owners I guess as well.

Montreal is building up to 65 storeys or whatever number of floors they can squeeze in under the height envelope.

You're cherrypicking. Alternatively, I can say Toronto rocks on heritage recognition comparing Maple Leaf Gardens to the Montreal Forum

 

[mburrrrr]

BMW is coming down very, very soon - not eventually, and it's not a chance. IIRC expropriation measures are already underway and the plan is to demolish it within the next 12 months.

The average life span of a car dealership building downtown seems to be 5-10 years.

 

[unrealestate]

Montreal is building up to 65 storeys or whatever number of floors they can squeeze in under the height envelope.

You're cherrypicking. Alternatively, I can say Toronto rocks on heritage recognition comparing Maple Leaf Gardens to the Montreal Forum

The Forum is one of the saddest buildings, what a disaster

A lot of the worst heritage demo in Toronto was pre 1990 I would say

 

[christiesplits]

Can someone explain to me why Montreal was able to maintain the Molson building and keep it with history but yet Toronto on this project was not able to. Once again Toronto not willing to keep its history within architecture. Montreal project not make 65 story towers either but yet we have to with every monster project. We need more architects passionate about Toronto like the architect who is designing that Molson project, even in his words he says he wants Montrealers to be proud of the final product, Toronto architects could care less it seems. And owners I guess as well.

I'm disappointed that Cadillac Fairview didn't at least save the smaller of the two buildings. I always thought it could be an arts or community hub.

Original photo from NiceForWhat.

 

[innsertnamehere]

The average life span of a car dealership building downtown seems to be 5-10 years.

Built 2004 so 20+ years here

 

[Dinamo5]

Thanks for the answers, it makes sense if what is manufactured determines if the structure is going to stand or not. I just thought the passion from the architect and owners is what is missing in Toronto, I have heard it from numerous people on this site about how much better Toronto could be if we learned from examples around the world. I did come across this blog TO article that shows some of the beatuiful structures that Toronto has lost. Either way I think in the end East Harbour with the Port lands and the distillery will be crazy amazing when all completed. https://www.blogto.com/city/2010/11/the_top_10_buildings_lost_to_demolition_in_toronto/
Next needs to be a nice Esplanade and David Crombie park reno connecting the downtown core to the distillery/East Harbour site.

 

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Built 2004 so 20+ years here

Reclad / revitalized in 2004. The original building is from the 50s. Funny enough, it was a Roland project too.

 

[jje1000]

Alternately, Toronto as a City threw away so much of its heritage fabric in the past and replaced it with total dreck that there's are now a tiny, itsy-bitsy, squeaky little voice that hopes that maybe, possibly someone might occasionally consider not just bulldozing everything in sight. Hardly anybody, ever pays attention to that voice in any practical sense.

As someone who enjoys a good demolition, I can guarantee that there's no hesitation when it comes to bulldozing "old brick buildings."

I find that Toronto has relatively well on heritage preservation, but the main issue is that there was simply less grand architecture to start off with, and the majority of business activity occurred in the same downtown neighbourhoods as in the past, meaning that the districts with the grandest buildings have been constantly churned up with redevelopment. My only architectural loss gripe is really the loss of the St Lawrence Market neighbourhood, along with a few high-profile institutional buildings losses in the 60s-70s (i.e. Chorley Park, the Old Star building, some of the U of T buildings, the Ex, the CAMH site).

You're cherrypicking. Alternatively, I can say Toronto rocks on heritage recognition comparing Maple Leaf Gardens to the Montreal Forum

At least both cities are better than NY on the heritage, some of the recent demolitions/'renovations' there are awful. It's just that NY still has so much of its pre-war urban fabric around that the losses are not completely traumatic.

 

[innsertnamehere]

Reclad / revitalized in 2004. The original building is from the 50s. Funny enough, it was a Roland project too.

Interesting. Looking at satellite imagery - 1964 - built at the same time as the Eastern Avenue ramps:

You can see another tower there beside it as well which appears to have survived until the early 2000's before being demolished as a part of the BMW redevelopment.

They demolished this wonderful thing to build it:

Pre-BMW, it was this wonderful mid-century block:

The site in 1953:

From Sunlight Park to East Harbour, Part 2 of 2 - Spacing Toronto

This second part of my feature on Lever Brothers soap and detergent manufacturing in the lower Don Valley will examine the eight-decade history of Plant No. 1, known as the Sunlight Soap Works within its local industrial context, before returning for a second look at the surviving Plant No. 2...

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[rdaner]

Great images! A lot of people don’t realize that the parcel on Sunlight is separate from East Harbour thus more towers!

 

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