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Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

First....……..why the hell do they make the Miss Transitway look like it is split in the middle? Who cares if it uses the 403, just make it one long route. With these different colours to a new rider it looks like the line isn`t completed.

Second……….Busway was the BEST choice Miss could have made for the route. The route needed to be fast and it is. It goes thru an area with limited TOD potential but that`s OK for Busways as buses allow for seamless transit while LRT doesn`t. LRT would have cost a lot more and been far less flexible. It should NEVER be converted to LRT as busway is the best choice for the corridor. Before the recent opening of the Spadina extension, the Miss Transitway was the best piece of infrastructure Toronto has seen in a generation.
 
ssiguy2 said:
First....……..why the hell do they make the Miss Transitway look like it is split in the middle? Who cares if it uses the 403, just make it one long route. With these different colours to a new rider it looks like the line isn`t completed.

Second……….Busway was the BEST choice Miss could have made for the route. The route needed to be fast and it is. It goes thru an area with limited TOD potential but that`s OK for Busways as buses allow for seamless transit while LRT doesn`t. LRT would have cost a lot more and been far less flexible. It should NEVER be converted to LRT as busway is the best choice for the corridor. Before the recent opening of the Spadina extension, the Miss Transitway was the best piece of infrastructure Toronto has seen in a generation.
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I disagree that the Transitway should never be converted to LRT. It IMO should be converted eventually but at the same time be done in a way so buses can overtake the LRVs or move to the side to allow the LRVs to pass.
 
Leo_Chan said:
I disagree that the Transitway should never be converted to LRT. It IMO should be converted eventually but at the same time be done in a way so buses can overtake the LRVs or move to the side to allow the LRVs to pass.
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Absolutely. Make it paved LRT lane like St.Clair or Spadina and buses can share it.
 
robmausser said:
Absolutely. Make it paved LRT lane like St.Clair or Spadina and buses can share it.
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When the Crosstown LRT ends up at the Airport I do expect this. From Renforth both LRT and MiWay buses will share the ROW to the airport. This means that both Mississauga residents and Toronto residents will have one seat access to the Airport. Of course it means that Toronto will have to pay for the tracks (while they jointly pay for a bus ROW)

Likewise the ROW from Martin Grove to Renforth should be designed in a similar fashion. So MiWay buses can eventually use it with the hydro corridor to have a ROW all the way to Kipling.

It will be a long time for the demand to justify a LRT beyond Martin Grove (other than airport access)
 
I can certainly see a busway/LRT combined route from Renforth to Pearson as that will be a natural extension of the Eglinton West LRT which should be complete by 2072 but as far as the current busway, leave it as is.
 
Could this be why it is being built with Standard Gauge? Then the Mississauga LRTs can use it too? I am almost impressed with this forward thinking.
 
micheal_can said:
Could this be why it is being built with Standard Gauge? Then the Mississauga LRTs can use it too? I am almost impressed with this forward thinking.
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The decision for standard gauge on the "Transit City" LRTS (im calling them this ancient name because this is when the decision was made) to use standard gauge was because it is cheaper, and they saw no reason to incorperate Transit City into the TTC streetcar or subway system.

You can buy off the shelf LRTs if you use standard gauge.

The interoperability with Hurontario LRTs is simply a beneificial side effect, and their use of standard gauge is both because why wouldn't you, and because Transit City was taken over by the Ontario government, which then started to create their own LRT plans like Ottawa, Missisauga, Hamilton and KWC.
 
Crosstown twitter account posted this image of Keelesdale Station:

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Just up at Globe:
Builders of Toronto’s Crosstown transit line go to court for more time and money

OLIVER MOORE
PUBLISHED 9 MINUTES AGOUPDATED JULY 11, 2018
The companies building the $5.3-billion Eglinton Crosstown in Toronto, Canada’s biggest transit project, have gone to court seeking more time and money to finish the already delayed light rail line.

The construction consortium doing the project has filed a notice of motion alleging that actions by Metrolinx, the regional transit agency, and others are responsible for delaying their work. Metrolinx has not responded in court to the claims and said in a statement that it remains “committed” to the project opening by its current target date, in the fall of 2021.

A spokeswoman for Crosslinx Transit Solutions, a partnership of infrastructure giants including Aecon, Ellis Don and SNC-Lavalin that is building the project, would not elaborate on the legal filing.


“What I’ll confirm with you is we’ve filed a notice of action against Metrolinx for a breach of contract,” said Kristene Jenkins. “But beyond that we’re not going to get into the details. The process is underway.”

She would not clarify how much additional money or time is being sought by Crosslinx, nor whether the request to extend to timeline is an insurance measure or an acknowledgement the consortium cannot meet the 2021 deadline.
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/can...stown-transit-line-go-to-court-for-more-time/
 
^This is where P3 loses its allure.

The contractor in theory has signed on to absorb risk. But in practice the only risk the contractor assumes is carefully delineated by the contract. Government still accepts any other risk. Meanwhile, the contractor’s price under P3 was set higher than a straight time-materials contract, “because risk is passed to the contractor”.

- Paul
 
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