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Toronto Crosstown LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx | Arcadis

^I would say John Tory needs to do something about this. But seeing as he loves the status quo and virtually allows Toronto Transporation Services to operate however they please with no restraint, I mean who cares if we get streetcar styled operation on the surface level right?

What a joke.
 
The police can over-ride traffic signals. Which means we need police escorts for the surface section of Line 5, full time...
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From link.

Just wishful thinking. :eek:

Metrolinx’s first group of Eglinton Crosstown Light Rail Transit (LRT) light-rail vehicles were delivered from the maintenance and storage facility on the west end to begin their testing journey on Toronto’s east end.

As of May 27, the east portion of the Eglinton Crosstown LRT line has received three of the six vehicles expected. The final three will be delivered next week.

The vehicles were delivered on a flatbed truck, with a police escort, one at a time. They started from the maintenance and storage facility in Toronto’s west end and made their way east.

The Crosstown light-rail vehicles are being stored underground, west of Leslie Street. Once all six of the vehicles arrive by next week, they will start undergoing clearance and static testing, which ensures that the vehicle and systems work as intended and properly with each other.

Vehicle testing and commissioning will continue to take place between June and December, with a focus on the area between Science Centre Station and Kennedy Station.

Later this summer, more substantial vehicle testing will take place. In July, crews will be testing vehicles under conditions as if they were in service. This means train cars coupled together, increased speed testing, brake tests and concurrent vehicle testing.

While these are exciting times, Metrolinx officials are reminding all pedestrians, motorists, and cyclists that these are still active construction sites and to continue to exercise caution around these areas.

Keep watching as the other vehicles make their trek to the other side of the LRT route and testing starts along Eglinton in the upcoming months.
 
What's funny is that people joke on here that Eglinton Crosstown is a streetcar because the Ford's trashed the line as such many years ago. Turns out they weren't all that far off after all.
It was more than a joke when it first came out. It is our biggest fear, and now it is a reality.
 
For all those reacting with the 'angry' emoticon, in addition to doing that highly recommend contacting your local Councillor with your concern on this. I've reached out to Brad Bradford.
I haven't looked into this in detail, but limited transit priority is still transit priority. The ability to extend green times so the vehicle can clear the intersection is already a significantly beneficial measure which will cut delays. At the same time, you need a maximum green time to satisfy all road users, including pedestrians who are also experiencing delay, so there will be moments when the streetcar waits at a red light (especially on near-side transit stops which have unpredictable dwell time). Setting up the signal to prioritize the LRT through movement over the protected left turns, then going back to through green for vehicles would lead to more lost time during the phase transitions as well.

My point is, I don't think people need to kick and scream because left turns aren't being called after the through movement just yet. The line has it's own ROW and is coded for transit priority where it matters most.
 
^I wonder what data will be kept during the testing phase, especially once full speed end to end testing is attempted. In particular - How will the actual velocity compare to the designed statistic?

I wonder what it would take to get a Councillor to introduce a motion at Council directing the TTC and Transportation Department to conduct a formal study over the first 3-6 months of operation, to provide data eg
- Actual velocity versus design speeds
- Average delay at each intersection
- Potential velocity improvements possible with specific modifications at specific intersections

- Paul
 
^I wonder what data will be kept during the testing phase, especially once full speed end to end testing is attempted. In particular - How will the actual velocity compare to the designed statistic?

I wonder what it would take to get a Councillor to introduce a motion at Council directing the TTC and Transportation Department to conduct a formal study over the first 3-6 months of operation, to provide data eg
- Actual velocity versus design speeds
- Average delay at each intersection
- Potential velocity improvements possible with specific modifications at specific intersections

- Paul
TTC and Transport Services really oughta be doing this on their own initiative. I don’t see why Council should be involved unless they totally drop the ball. We’ll see if they act responsibly here.
 
The signal priority will help, but it will not solve the problem. As I mentioned before, with 5 min frequency, we have two trains passing each intersection (in opposite direction), so, a train each 150 sec. Minus time to cross (say 15 sec) and some buffer time to change the light (another 15 sec) it leaves only 2 min. So, if a traffic light is green for the left turns, there is a good chance that a train will need to stop anyway and then to wait for the crossing traffic... The only no-delay solution is a complete grade separation. They should've opted for under/overpasses that are frugally built (no stations).
 
Years of Toronto Star and pro LRT councillors/fans thrashing people who dared calling the eastern portion of the line as a glorified streetcar with the audacity to ask for a subway or elevated type of service...

We weren't wrong after all.

This line will be a 2-tier service with Etobicoke, York, Toronto being fully grade separated with short-turn capabilities for the underground/elevated sections while Scarborough will have the section at the mercy of idiotic drivers, elements and jaywalkers with no true priority signals...

Oh Toronto....
 
Years of Toronto Star and pro LRT councillors/fans thrashing people who dared calling the eastern portion of the line as a glorified streetcar with the audacity to ask for a subway or elevated type of service...

We weren't wrong after all.

This line will be a 2-tier service with Etobicoke, York, Toronto being fully grade separated with short-turn capabilities for the underground/elevated sections while Scarborough will have the section at the mercy of idiotic drivers, elements and jaywalkers with no true priority signals...

Oh Toronto....
Eglinton west only got a upgrade to grade separated after Scarborough complained about the SRT to LRT conversion which eventually turned into a subway. If you nimby in one area expect others to nimby in their area. And then who knows who gets what in the end.

FTR I was pro eglinton west at grade LRT even though it was the one line I might use quite often.
 
Eglinton west only got a upgrade to grade separated after Scarborough complained about the SRT to LRT conversion which eventually turned into a subway. If you nimby in one area expect others to nimby in their area. And then who knows who gets what in the end.
NIMBYs are a double edged sword. Sometimes they're throwing a hissy fit over nothing (Ontario Line and Yonge North), and sometimes they have a bloody point (Scarborough). At Grade LRT was always a bad idea on Eglinton, and this is one aspect of transit planning that Rob Ford absolutely hit the nail on the head (too bad about everything else with his Mayorship). I really, really hope we find a way to grade separate Eglinton East sooner than later.
 
NIMBYs are a double edged sword. Sometimes they're throwing a hissy fit over nothing (Ontario Line and Yonge North), and sometimes they have a bloody point (Scarborough). At Grade LRT was always a bad idea on Eglinton, and this is one aspect of transit planning that Rob Ford absolutely hit the nail on the head (too bad about everything else with his Mayorship). I really, really hope we find a way to grade separate Eglinton East sooner than later.

The NIMBYs are complaining how it will affect the cars, not how it will affect the operation of the LRT. This is also one of the factors driving the unwillingness to implement transit priority - it wasn't a "bloody point".

AoD
 

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