Toronto Cliffside Condos | 31.85m | 10s | LCH | RAW Design

[RyanD]

Slightly related. LCH has been working across the street on the retail levels of the Haven on the Bluff's condo. We built out our sales centre for the project in this retail space, re doing the retail facade in the process. Before and after photos:

Hopefully after sales are done and the community starts getting built out it'll be a nice little cafe or something.

 

[flonicky]

 

[Paclo]

Application Details

www.toronto.ca

Resubmission affirming the changes from the approved minor variance. Changes below:

• Total residential units decreased from 208 to 206 (includes 7 rental replacement)
• Total vehicular parking reduced from 148 to 141
• Increase in retail GFA
• Unit Mix changes
• Technical changes

 

[RyanD]

This might be a bit sales-y for UT but we made a cool video about this project.

 

[flonicky]

You should also make a video about the project! lol

I think the video buries the lede and only mentions the potential of the area closer to the end. If you're invested in the area, I think you'd get more mileage out of doing a video just about the location. Cover a bit of the history, the current transition and mainly focus on the area's future potential as a ''have it all' hub. For me, even now I mainly think of Kingston Road as something to be endured rather than enjoyed. I didn't know how close it ran to the lake or about the ravines, trails and parks that are just south of it. I knew the Bluffs but not things like Gates Gully and the waterfront trail. Cliffside is one of a very few places that can be developed into an urban strip that'll also let you walk right out your door to nature. If you look at Lakeview Village in Mississauga, they're having to build some of those natural assets because they don't exist (and won't at the same scale or with the same broader connections). If you're doing more projects here, it'll be easier if you correct perceptions about the location.

 

[RyanD]

You should also make a video about the project! lol

I think the video buries the lede and only mentions the potential of the area closer to the end. If you're invested in the area, I think you'd get more mileage out of doing a video just about the location. Cover a bit of the history, the current transition and mainly focus on the area's future potential as a ''have it all' hub. For me, even now I mainly think of Kingston Road as something to be endured rather than enjoyed. I didn't know how close it ran to the lake or about the ravines, trails and parks that are just south of it. I knew the Bluffs but not things like Gates Gully and the waterfront trail. Cliffside is one of a very few places that can be developed into an urban strip that'll also let you walk right out your door to nature. If you look at Lakeview Village in Mississauga, they're actually having to build some of those natural assets because they don't exist (and won't at the same scale or with the same broader connections). If you're doing more projects here, it'll be easier if you correct perceptions about the location.

My editor put this one together but I actually have 8 hours of RAW video footage we shot for Cliffside that I can edit into as many videos as I want (and have time to make lol)

 

[Northern Light]

A very good Front Page story on this one from Craig White:

LCH Developments Launching Cliffside Condos Above the Scarborough Bluffs | UrbanToronto

LCH Developments' Cliffside Condos is a 10-storey building, designed by RAW, that will offer both retail at grade and live-work suites facing on Kingston Road, public realm improvements, plus 206 condo suites in Scarborough's Cliffside Village.

urbantoronto.ca

 

[Northern Light]

A resubmission, largely technical, I think, was made here in July '24.

@Paclo

 

[Paclo]

Application Details

app.toronto.ca

Resubmission with the following changes:

• Total residential units increased from 206 to 223 (incl. 7 rental replacement + 4 live/work)
• Total bicycle parking increased from 156 to 167

No new renderings

 

[sipet46801]

Is it true this project is going to now switch to an all-rental units because they couldn't meet financing requirements? Heard this today from some investor friends @RyanD not sure if you're allowed to share but this was something I heard

 

[KD124]

What happened here then? City approved application for condos to be built, then sales began and did not meet expectations, then city said, ok then, you can/must turn this into rental units?

 

[Northern Light]

Is it true this project is going to now switch to an all-rental units because they couldn't meet financing requirements? Heard this today from some investor friends @RyanD not sure if you're allowed to share but this was something I heard

If one checks the AIC files for Correspondence .......we may find an answer to that question.

I don't know if @Paclo made note of that, so I'll tag him just in case:

 

[flonicky]

I did a Gates Gully walk today (8km total) which reminded me that I haven't yapped about the untapped potential of this area in a while. The Scarborough shoreline from the Bluffs to Rouge Park offers an assortment of options for easily getting into nature.

 

[Paclo]

The proponent has made revisions that required another Minor Variance Application. Stat changes include a minor increase in vehicular parking from 141 to 143 and a minor increase in bicycle parking from 167 to 170.
More info in the correspondence documents:

Application Details

www.toronto.ca

There is no explicit indication of a switch to full rentals, (architectural plans by RAW dated Jul '24 still refer to the project as "Kingston Road Condominium"). However, given the correspondence posted above by @Northern Light, the primary tenure has been listed as unspecified for now. Note that there remains 7 rental replacement units and 4 live/work units.

CoA hearing scheduled for Nov 13th.

Updated visuals: