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:rolleyes: And the poor local representation when it comes to voting. Everyone is the same across the province anyway right? And who cares about people who have jobs at the municipal level anyways? hmmm.... I think we might lose some local direction, local policy and local control. Personally I would be against this idea just to save a buck as it would cause more problems than it would solve.
 
Amalgamate into a Peel City

I think Peel City sounds weird. Mississauga is already a nice and unique name giving tribute to natives (Toronto, Ottawa, etc.)

Anyways, "Brampton" already exists (Queen and Main), and "Peel" also exists (Main and Steeles). The name "Mississauga" won't exist anymore if another name would be adopted, since there is no single village named "Mississauga" as far as I know.

If we put Caledon in this amalgamation, then we have the existing villages named "Caledon" (Airport and Old Church) and "Caledon Village" (Hurontario and Charleston Sideroad).
 
If we put Caledon in this amalgamation, then we have the existing villages named "Caledon" (Airport and Old Church) and "Caledon Village" (Hurontario and Charleston Sideroad).

Said "Caledon" is actually "Caledon East", wheras "Caledon Village" is what was once just plain "Caledon" (a la Pickering Village)
 
That's right. "Caledon East" was actually on the border of Caledon and Albion Townships (where Albion Road gets its name), but as a police village, associated more with Caledon Township than Albion Township.

"Peel" as alessia puts it was the name of a development called "Peel Village" - where the names of the streets were named for unincorporated villages in Peel County/Region, like Erindale, Inglewood and Cheltenham, and for the original land owners (Bartley and Duncan Bull; Watson who was the developer).

Peel was a county esablished in the 1860s; the village (later Town) of Brampton became the County Seat with the Court House, Jail and gallows, Registry Office and the Dominion Building. Brampton, centred at Main and Queen was the largest town in the county until the 1960s when the Town of Mississauga was established, then the City of Mississauga in 1974.

It makes no sense for Peel to be a city of its own. But if it comes to restructuring, northern Caledon (say King Street north, excepting Bolton) should join Dufferin County.
 
Hey if Caledon (why not Bolton) joins Dufferin, the Dufferin-Peel Catholic District School Board won't be affected at all =)
 
Brampton approves controversial plan for downtown

Published 38 minutes ago


San Grewal Urban Affairs Reporter


A divisive mood dominated Brampton City Council Monday night as councillors voted to go ahead with one of the largest and most controversial projects it has ever undertaken.
After residents expressed frustration over secrecy surrounding the downtown redevelopment bid process and the fact it only generated two final proposals to reshape the city’s core, it was council’s turn to ask questions.
Councillors voted 7-3 in favour of the Dominus bid, which was selected by staff over Morguard’s bid, but said they were unclear about many aspects of last week’s staff report on the winning proposal.
“I don’t understand the finances of this,†Councillor Grant Gibson said, questioning why the city seems to have so little involvement in the construction process and financing.
The Dominus redevelopment will cost about $205 million for the first phase of the plan (for a city hall expansion and parking spaces), including leasing costs over 25 years before ownership is handed over to the city.
The final two phases would cost about $155 million, the city estimates, and include construction of office, retail space, a new library and more parking.
Councillor John Sanderson asked whether Dominus is obligated to complete those phases under the proposal being voted on. There was no clear answer, though city staff said the only obligation being voted on was for the first phase.
But when Councillor Elaine Moore later asked for more clarity, staff said the proposal being voted on was indeed a commitment to Dominus for the final two phases, with no definite idea of the price, financing or timeline.
Council also voted with almost no knowledge of two other original bids, one of which was disqualified. The intentional secrecy was a result of the “competitive dialogue process†the city used for the bid.
That process is supposed to protect cities from simply going with the lowest bidder and then being subjected to cost overruns because the selected bid was unrealistic. The secrecy is an intended part of the process to create the required “tension†between bidders to guarantee their best bid.
Moore questioned why the same person who recommended the competitive dialogue process to the city, an expert who widely endorses it in his professional capacity, was also paid by the city to be the “fairness†expert to evaluate how well the process worked. “It seems like a conflict of interest,†she said.
Staff replied that they did not have many options. The “fairness†expert gave a glowing report of how the process worked.
After Moore said she could not ask taxpayers to pay for such a large project with so many unanswered questions, she asked the vote be deferred. The motion was defeated.
Brampton resident Doug Bryden who works in the development industry and has overseen major projects in downtown Toronto such as the Eaton Centre and Royal Bank Plaza, was critical of the proposal, the lack of transparency behind the process, the high price and lack of clarity about the financing.
“The process used by the city (to attract proposals) was so new, so convoluted and so complex that developers decided to take a pass.â€
He noted that only three companies submitted bids and only two were considered. “That’s not good enough for Brampton’s downtown.â€
However, Don Naylor, Brampton Downtown Development Corp. board chair, lauded the bid, urging council to “recognize the merits of this proposal.â€
One issue is how the proposal will be paid for. City treasurer Mo Lewis admitted the $7.2 million annual financing of the project in future budgets, has not been accounted for. He said that will have to be worked out beginning with planning for the 2012 budget, when payments would start.
Bryden noted that the city’s original call for proposals stated the project should result in minimal to no tax increases for residents. He questioned where the extra $7.2 million a year for 25 years would be found in the city’s future budgets.
Councillor John Hutton also favoured deferring the vote to answer questions. Considering the winning bid was only revealed through a partial report by city staff released less than a week earlier, other councillors also suggested that given the scale and cost of the project the vote should be postponed.
But Mayor Susan Fennell was determined to go forward, telling Hutton, three hours after the meeting began, that staff were present to answer all his questions so a vote could take place. She later said the project wouldn’t increase taxes, offering no idea how it would be paid for other than staff will figure things out.
Moore also questioned if a legal opinion should be sought on undue influence. She mentioned campaign contributions from Dominus, its sister companies or individuals directly linked to the company, given to some council members. Fennell received campaign contributions from individuals linked to the company, but staff replied there is no evidence of any undue influence.
 
I attended the meeting last night and left with a much better feel/impression of this project than is indicated in my earlier posting. For one thing, staff clarified the costing and, at around $240 psf, it would seem that they are getting value for money.

They also had some better renderings at the meeting (of both, the Dominus and the Morguard proposals) and it is clear that while this process might have flaws staff is recommending (and council approved) the far better of the two proposals.

There was one resident there hell bent on disrupting the meeting with accusations of conflict of interest and council/staff secrecy.

Interesting that the star report above points out some elements of "conflict" but fails to mention that the most eloquent critic of the project (the Mr Bryden they mention) got half way through his remarks and then declared his own conflict in that he had done "some consulting" work for one of the respondents to the call for proposals (one that had earlier been disqualified).....no mention of that in star?
 
Anyways, "Brampton" already exists (Queen and Main), and "Peel" also exists (Main and Steeles). The name "Mississauga" won't exist anymore if another name would be adopted, since there is no single village named "Mississauga" as far as I know.

If they do merge it would probably be a "Region of Peel" government and all the communities would to back to using their old names only.
 
http://www.thestar.com/news/article...plan-could-finally-give-brampton-its-downtown

Controversial new plan could finally give Brampton its downtown

Published On Mon May 23 2011
Urban Affairs Reporter
San Grewal


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As Brampton's population continues to swell the nation's tenth largest city remains desperate for a downtown that will give it an identity.

But a plan that could cost more than half a billion dollars accepted after more than 20 years of promises now has many questioning the vision Brampton's leaders have endorsed.

Today, when you walk the intersection of Queen St. and Main St. — the centre of historic Brampton — it has the look and feel of a sleepy town, not a city of 500,000 people. A hodge-podge of ageing single-storey buildings home to a variety of small businesses and services line the streets. Unlike the draw of a vibrant downtown it is devoid of lively pedestrian traffic and a bustling commercial scene.

Bramptonians recognize the need to replace the buildings of a bygone era with modern, urban corridors that will attract the brightest people and best businesses flocking to the region; or risk losing out to neighbouring communities while outlying sprawl continues.

With mounting demands to finally act on old promises, city council recently approved a bid by developer Dominus Cityzen Fernbrook to recreate the downtown.

Supporters say the plan fulfills a much needed large-scale expansion of city hall, modern office and retail spaces, parking and a new library.

They want to know why the cost is about twice that of a bid that was disqualified under a selection process they call secretive--only two bids were eventually considered for the largest project in the city's history. The Dominus bid, for just the first of three phases (the city hall work), has a ceiling of $205 million, which includes construction and leasing costs over 25 years. The construction cost for phase two and three is $157 million, not including financing costs.

When Brampton's population started to balloon council realized the city had to choose — either define itself or become a feeder city to Toronto and booming Mississauga. The city moved to define itself and embarked on a path of downtown revitalization.

The options council faced were stark: Scramble to become the dense urban city that the province mandated under its growth strategy, with modern industries, transit hubs and its own commercial/cultural centre; or allow the comfortable pattern of donut style growth to continue as the city settled into its identity as a bedroom community.

But with Brampton now on track to finally fulfill the promise of a defining downtown to draw residents in and create the feel of being its own city, taxpayers such as Chris Bejnar are more worried than ever.

“I am a huge supporter of downtown development,” says Bejnar, who has become the loudest voice advocating for fellow residents. “But why are there so many questions about the Dominus bid the city won't answer? Why is the cost so high and why don't we know if it even includes the whole project”?

Bejnar and other critics of the bid also want to know how the $205 million for just the first phase will be paid for.
 
^It definitely does.

There is a point to be made that the sizes of our suburban municipalities don't really make a lot of sense. 500,000 or more is clearly far too large to have genuine neighbourhood representation, while in many cases the municipalities just flow into each other and boundaries are meaningless. We'd be better off to either break them up into much smaller units or just amalgamate them into single-tier municipalities and be done with it. This was also the problem of the old Metro.

People who think Toronto is over-governed compared to other cities are mistaken, though. Paris, for example, is about the size of Toronto and it has 20 arrondissements, each with its own council and administration.
 
http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1037804--brampton-greenlights-redevelopment

Brampton greenlights redevelopment

Published On Wed Aug 10 2011
San Grewal
Urban Affairs Reporter



With the biggest project in Brampton’s history hanging in the balance, Mayor Susan Fennell slammed down her gavel Wednesday and yelled, “I take great exception to your insinuation that my vote is for sale.”

Four hours later, she cast the deciding vote in a 6-5 council decision to allow developer Dominus to begin a redevelopment of the city’s ageing downtown core that could cost more than half a billion dollars.

The redevelopment plan is to include a large city hall expansion, office and retail space, a new library and parking. However, what was approved Wednesday only guarantees the first phase of three in the Dominus plan: the bigger city hall, some retail and some of the parking, at a cost of $205 million.

It’s unclear whether the other two phases, which some councillors argued include the elements that would really animate the city centre, will ever be built.

Council is now in the unusual position of having voted for a massive project without even beginning to discuss how to pay for it. Construction is set to begin in late October.

It remains unclear if Wednesday’s vote ties the city to Dominus beyond the first phase. The company’s estimate would put the total cost of all three phases at over $500 million, when the same finance rates built into the first phase are applied.

Meanwhile, Brampton’s downtown has continued to deteriorate, looking more like the tired strip of a sleepy small town than the centre of a city of half a million people, the 10th largest in the country.

Residents are finally going to get a downtown redevelopment. Even if it’s not the one some wanted, or at a cost they were willing to pay.
 
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