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I find "dog fountain park" works a lot better when you're trying to direct someone there to meet up. It's otherwise pretty much impossible when there are as many ways to pronounce it as there are people trying to pronounce it. I've always said "bear-see".
 

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Boy!! did this park go to the dogs...:):D:p

Until today, never took any shots of it being built even though I was shoot around it and its very well done. It looks a lot better than what was there before.

It was funny watching a few dogs bark at these dog statues or even try to smell them. A few people where trying to take photos of their dog next to these dogs.

Running short of time and only got a few shots and will spend more time there when I have time.
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EDIT: I was thinking I would be fine with the park being renamed after Pam McConnell, as this whole question would evaporate… but Moll is considered one of the cofounders of Toronto, so I suppose not. There's a bunch of stuff named after him up in Markham too.

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If we’re talking about renaming it maybe we can name it after an ethnic figure. For the most multicultural city in the world I think there is a clear lack of things in this city named after ethnic people.
 

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I'm happy to leave it as is, named for a guy who renamed himself—for reasons that appear to be lost to history—and brought non-British people to Toronto at a time when it was badly in need of a little cultural diversity. And who are "ethnic people", anyway? We all belong to one or more ethnic groups.
 

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I'm very resistant to changing the historical or traditional names of parks and streets. As the city continues to grow there will be plenty of opportunity to name new parks, squares etc that will reflect the city's increasing diversity. Really like the new hand sculptures, it is turning into a nice little sculpture park.
 

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I'm happy to leave it as is, named for a guy who renamed himself—for reasons that appear to be lost to history—and brought non-British people to Toronto at a time when it was badly in need of a little cultural diversity. And who are "ethnic people", anyway? We all belong to one or more ethnic groups.

I apologize I meant to say an ethnic minority figure. There seems to be a lack of ethnic minorities represented in the names of streets/places/things in this city.
 

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If we’re talking about renaming it maybe we can name it after an ethnic figure. For the most multicultural city in the world I think there is a clear lack of things in this city named after ethnic people.

Would only work in places with a clear connection to multiculturalism/the significant figure. Otherwise, it's diversity for the sake of diversity.

I also think the current policy of naming new public spaces after significant "ethnic" figures and adding affixes to existing places (i.e. Ted Rogers Way) works far better than forcibly stripping a place of its original identity.
 

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Would only work in places with a clear connection to multiculturalism/the significant figure. Otherwise, it's diversity for the sake of diversity.

I also think the current policy of naming new public spaces after significant "ethnic" figures and adding affixes to existing places (i.e. Ted Rogers Way) works far better than forcibly stripping a place of its original identity.

I am not in favour of renaming for historical reasons (except in certain circumstances), but it is hard to imagine we have trouble finding clear connections to people of different backgrounds for naming purposes after so many years.

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We live in a city where in the core streets are often named after the friends of politicians and developers, after local businessmen who didn't actually live there, after area landowners, after British nobles who probably could not have found Toronto on a map, etc. "Clear connection", or even merit, did not figure into many of our street and place names. I used to live near two streets name after the developer's daughters 100+ years ago (Muriel Avenue and Gertrude Place, if anyone is interested).

So I am a lot less worried about "it's diversity for the sake of diversity", since so many place names in the core don't even have that going for them. If someone made a profound impact on this city, whether they are high profile or did so quietly, not unreasonable to name something after them where the opportunity presents itself.

Also, let's stop naming stuff after deceased politicians, unless ten or so years have passed so that we can actually assess their impact with some objectivity. I don't care how hard they worked for their community, or how beloved they were. I am a big fan of Pam McConnell, and think something should eventually be named after her, but not this park, nor anything else in the area, until at least 2027. As a city we are too quick to name things after members of Council, and not very quick to recognize other aspects of our collective history.
 

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Would only work in places with a clear connection to multiculturalism/the significant figure. Otherwise, it's diversity for the sake of diversity.

I also think the current policy of naming new public spaces after significant "ethnic" figures and adding affixes to existing places (i.e. Ted Rogers Way) works far better than forcibly stripping a place of its original identity.

Ugh. "Ted Rogers Way" was a needless renaming of a block of Jarvis Street (doing a disservice to local navigation), it wasn't adding an affix to an existing place, like "Nelson Mandela Boulevard" over top University Avenue, or "Moses Znaimer Way" on a block of Queen Street.

I could go for a sensible re-naming of Jarvis Street (the person who it was named for was an unpleasant wealthy slaveholder), but not for some wealthy monopolistic businessman.

As for Pam McConnell, I think after a year (but not 10 years), she probably should get something named for her, but probably in the Regent Park area. Not Berzcy Park.
 
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