ushahid
Senior Member
i am having a feeling those are not waves. they are more likely fins installe to make them look like waves.
I really really REALLY hope they're waves. Either way it's nice to see more and more higher quality projects flowing in. Really looking forward to some updated renders for this projecti am having a feeling those are not waves. they are more likely fins installe to make them look like waves.
I'm not sure what you mean by downgrade here. As this seems to be the 3rd crack at this design wise and likely the most plausible to be built.I don't understand this downgrade. I wana sit down with the people that rejected the previous design and understand their logic.
Did you really think the previous GPA version was going to happen?I don't understand this downgrade. I wana sit down with the people that rejected the previous design and understand their logic.
Did you really think the previous GPA version was going to happen?
Perhaps I'm irreparably jaded, but when those same folks see a concept car, do they believe that's what they'll be able to buy in two years?You do ask a similar question in many threads; I know your inside-baseball cynicism doesn't allow for it, PE, but most people, imagine that when someone/a company publicly puts out 'If given a chance, we'll do this' they actually imagine it may be true.
LOL
At the very least, they hope it's true; unless it's a Kirkor design, in which case people hope they're lying........... LOL
Everybody understands the idea of a concept car and few, if any, make the mistake that they might be able to drive around in one in a couple of years. The pattern in Toronto, for the most part, is to promote a flashy design, then value engineer it to death. Nobu is a good example among many. I've photographed buildings in 55 countries and in over 300 cities.There are beautiful designs that get built in many of those cities and they actually look like the original render. The issue in Toronto is that there are a large group of condo developers who are simply maximizing profits at the expense of quality. Obviously, making money is the whole point and value engineering happens everywhere, but the overall track record here is pretty dismal. Being jaded is simply the result of being disappointed too many times. In my opinion, if a condo developer hires HPA or, to a lesser extent, Aa, we know we will probably be getting a quality design. Commercial buildings here are a different story. Some recent builds and under-construction projects are really terrific. The sad part is that in many cases, non-Toronto architects were hired as the lead designers. Is that simply name branding? Or is it a sign of a deeper issue?Perhaps I'm irreparably jaded, but when those same folks see a concept car, do they believe that's what they'll be able to buy in two years?