smallspy
Senior Member
The Sheppard Line is getting no such signal work or upgrades.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
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The Sheppard Line is getting no such signal work or upgrades.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Yes it is that's one of the reasons for putting the Toronto rocket trains on it.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...-complete-failure-on-ttc-streetcar-order.html
And yet this city, and likely this mayor will continue to award contracts for subways and light rail to Bombardier. They know we're all bluff and bluster.
And yet this city, and likely this mayor will continue to award contracts for subways and light rail to Bombardier. They know we're all bluff and bluster.
smallspy
Senior Member
Wow....where do I start....
The TRs were put on Sheppard because the YUS is now getting an ATO/ATC CBTC-based signalling system with no secondary wayside system that would allow the T1s to operate on it. Even the work cars will have to be ATO-equipped. This is not rocket science, and is well covered in the TTC's own reports.
The signal system on Sheppard is 15 years old, and has another 35 years of life in it - what sense does it make to replace it at this point in its life?
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
Ozman
Active Member
A couple of quick questions Dan:
When the new signalling system becomes fully operational on Line 1, YUS, will the existing signals be removed; i.e. no more green, yellow, red, amber and lunar aspects? Will the trip arms still be there?
On the Crosstown, Line 5 will there be signals in the tunnel section or will there be nothing visible to the eye? For the in-median section will they simply be operated like the streetcars on Spadina, St. Clair etc.?
Thanks as always for any insight you can share.
rbt
Senior Member
Unfunded projects don't really have completion dates. The $4.5M in federal dollars is just enough to figure out what work for Line 2 resignalling is necessary (write a tender).
So, it's on a wishlist for some unknown time in the future but is listed as a prereq for SSE. However, to have an end date you need to have a start date and a cheque.
The feds will come forward with significantly more money in the near future but since they cannot make agreements with the municipality, you need the province onboard with that piece of work and the province may prefer the federal money go to Metrolinx components.
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smallspy
Senior Member
Admittedly I haven't been fully versed on the new signal system, but I've been led to believe that all signals and trip arms will be removed.
The in-street operation of the line will be much like the existing PROW of the streetcar lines, although with more/better integration with the automotive signals - at least, that's what every TTC planner that I've ever talked to has referred to it as. As for the tunnelled section, while I could have sworn that I'd read that they will be using BBD's CityFlow 650 system I can't find any references to a decision actually having been made as to the vendor.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
Now they have its version of a ticker display thing in the window.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
They are for exterior announcement of the line and destination of train it's being discussed in the general TTC third as they are also outfitting the T1's with it too. It will probably be ready by the end of the year once the TYSSE opens up.
khris
Senior Member
Have all of the Rocket trains been delivered or are they still being made?
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
Delivery was completed several weeks ago.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Yup the last thing sent was a truck load of spare parts that were leftover.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
Most of the Toronto Rocket trains are now being updated with the new LED message boards on the sides and they are going to have a software update for the station anocments for the extension sometime between now and the end of the year.
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
I suspect we'll be getting more deliverys of Toronto Rockets in the relatively near future (5 to 10 years). TTC doesn't own enough train sets to run Line 1 at maximum frequency, Line 2 will need a totally new fleet within the decade, and the Line 2 extension and Relief Line will require the TTC to expand its fleet for them to open within 10 years.
TTC management is quite pleased with the TRs, and resuming production will be the most expedient means of getting the TTC the trains it'll need.
TTC management is quite pleased with the TRs, and resuming production will be the most expedient means of getting the TTC the trains it'll need.
M II A II R II K
Senior Member
Might have to wait til the 2027 rolling stock is delivered to get enough trains for Line 1