adma
Superstar
It isn't like the nearby Fred Victor Mission is any less "hostile"--and yet, it was designed by some of aA's predecessors (and it shows)
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junctionist
Senior Member
Maybe they should have gone with Kirkor. A few turrets, some moldings and stucco, and it wouldn't look so hostile. 
Sir Novelty Fashion
Senior Member
Well, there's two sides to that. I see what you're saying - from the outside, the wall does have a slightly Dickensian look to it. But it works both ways: it creates a private space for the centre's clients, and I'm guessing that if one thing is at a premium when you live on the street, it's space where you feel some degree of privacy and ownership.
androiduk
Senior Member
I don't mind the building as a whole but I wish they would get rid of those little brick walls and put some trees and benches there. This fortress mentality has to stop, no matter who the occupants are.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
SNF:
The site might not allow for it - but a better way to offer private space might be to have an interior courtyard, oriented towards the back instead of fronting Jarvis.
AoD
The site might not allow for it - but a better way to offer private space might be to have an interior courtyard, oriented towards the back instead of fronting Jarvis.
AoD
Sir Novelty Fashion
Senior Member
That's true. Point well taken.
Urban Shocker
Doyenne
It isn't a particularly deep site, from west to east; an interior courtyard might be rather cramped - like an old prison yard.
A couple of men up on a lift were working on the chapel exterior this morning when I walked past, with a policeman standing on the sidewalk below as part of the show. The mellow red brickwork is in several calm shades.
A couple of men up on a lift were working on the chapel exterior this morning when I walked past, with a policeman standing on the sidewalk below as part of the show. The mellow red brickwork is in several calm shades.
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Superstar
From today.
Isn't there supposed to be a glass frosting on this cake? When will the glass arrive?
Isn't there supposed to be a glass frosting on this cake? When will the glass arrive?
khris
Senior Member
Hopefully soon. I want to see how it will look.
UserNameToronto
Active Member
http://www.nowtoronto.com/daily/story.cfm?content=169711
I honestly thought they were trying to make it look ugly on purpose, and then the translucent cladding went up. Much better.
I honestly thought they were trying to make it look ugly on purpose, and then the translucent cladding went up. Much better.
Edward
Senior Member
It does look good lit up at night like that.
emacs
Active Member
i'm impressed. i haven't seen the site at night for quite some time.
khris
Senior Member
Look what they got in the UK:
http://www.dezeen.com/2009/08/06/salvation-army-citadel-corps-by-hudson-architects/
http://www.dezeen.com/2009/08/06/salvation-army-citadel-corps-by-hudson-architects/
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I'd say we got the better building. For all that structure's cool zinc cladding and undulating roofline, it still seems cold and unforgiving - precisely the message that a Harbor Lights Center would want to avoid. The concrete courtyard (trees, grass?), lack of fenestration and the general favoring of mass over void really give this place the air of a showy, new-age, detention center.
I generally agree with PE here: the zinc is rather cold, etc., - but the stained glass spire does provide some real warmth for the UK project. We get the brick for warmth in our exterior. I wonder if the UK project has a warmer feel inside? The clue in the article may be that it's "entirely built with timber", so there is definitely an opportunity to take advantage of there.
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