Rob Ford's Toronto

[DeathSilver]

Things are tough, but they're also a bump in the road, so it's anyone's guess

Kathy is still not welcomed.

 

[Cooper]

I think they'd be way better for surveillance than using the Cessna. Remember, half of Etobicoke complained about the noise when Giroux was following Lisi and Rob around.

This could have been an awesome Socknaki plank: In future, TPS will conduct all surveillence of mayoral criminality using drone technology. It will be cheaper and less disruptive to neighbourhoods.

 

[dforthandbview]

On a serious note, do you think that the TPS ought to have one or more helicopters?

Not more than two. Doug Ford only has two middle fingers, after all. Unless he could incorporate his middle toes for maximum effect.

 

[AlvinofDiaspar]

Sad but true. She probably sees benefits with either outcome.

Oddly I am concerned about her - she could potentially be in an even more vulnerable position if the so called worst case scenarios comes to pass.

AoD

 

[animatronic]

Ha!



"I wouldn't put it past Doug" should be the new slogan...

How about "another promise made, another promise forgotten"

 

[pud99]

start a helio thread, please.

But this is the Hello Canada thread.

ETA: Oops, read it as "hello thread".

 

[zang]

(IIRC, the cost of the helicopter that the British taxpayers were forcibly made to buy for Prince William for his birthday was $11 million.)

Fixed that for you.

I think you mean "commonwealth taxpayers". It would appear Canadians pay disproportionately more than the Brits, even.

http://www.macleans.ca/news/canada/queen-costs-us-more-than-the-brits-pay/

 

[euler]

On a serious note, do you think that the TPS ought to have one or more helicopters? Would they add that much value?

I'm not sure, I haven't looked into it. It surely would help if you had people running from the police, but we do have friends at York Region and, as you pointed out, at the OPP who do have helicopters, but whether the cost of purchasing it and operating it (and hiring pilots, observers, maintaining it) is 'worth it', I don't know. I guess it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. I'm just an aviation geek, not some sort of police equipment analyst. ;-) More equipment in the skies is always a good thing for me since I love seeing them!

I'll tell you one thing, once I was a kid trespassing on an empty construction site and I guess we tripped an alarm, since within minutes a helicopter was shining a light on us and 10 cruisers and a K9 unit descended on us. Guess they thought we were robbers, instead of kids just wanted to drink beer in peace. Anyhow, when it's hovering over you and you've got that spotlight on you, it's a very intense feeling of "oh shit, no way we're getting away from this".

 

[Videodrome]

How about "another promise made, another promise forgotten"

Doug Ford, the Toronto Information Minister.

 

[zang]

I think they'd be way better for surveillance than using the Cessna. Remember, half of Etobicoke complained about the noise when Giroux was following Lisi and Rob around.

Despite what movie clichés might present, there's no such thing as a silent helicopter.

Aircraft engines can be loud, but helicopters are louder. At least with a plane, you can throttle down the engine a bit and reduce some of that noise and not drop too fast. Helicopters though, you throttle back and you're heading down. No thermal lift, no glide.

 

[pud99]

This could have been an awesome Socknaki plank: In future, TPS will conduct all surveillence of mayoral criminality using drone technology. It will be cheaper and less disruptive to neighbourhoods.

Even cheaper and more discrete: Make every mayor wear a GPS ankle bracelet.

 

[nfitz]

Despite what movie clichés might present, there's no such thing as a silent helicopter.

Aircraft engines can be loud, but helicopters are louder. At least with a plane, you can throttle down the engine a bit and reduce some of that noise and not drop too fast. Helicopters though, you throttle back and you're heading down. No thermal lift, no glide.

While I've made a lot of fun at those complaining about noise from the island airport, it is the helicopters I hear passing low over my house in the middle of the night, rather than any planes, or the nearby trains and streetcars.

 

[euler]

Despite what movie clichés might present, there's no such thing as a silent helicopter.

Aircraft engines can be loud, but helicopters are louder. At least with a plane, you can throttle down the engine a bit and reduce some of that noise and not drop too fast. Helicopters though, you throttle back and you're heading down. No thermal lift, no glide.

Actually, helicopters can glide - sort of. Enough to save your ass if your engine quits, but it's not very much fun (and while even newbie pilots practice it, I would NOT want to be in a helo that had to do it for real). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autorotation

But yes, they are quite loud. It's not the end of the world, but if you were being followed by a helicopter... you'd know.

 

[pud99]

Despite what movie clichés might present, there's no such thing as a silent helicopter.

Aircraft engines can be loud, but helicopters are louder. At least with a plane, you can throttle down the engine a bit and reduce some of that noise and not drop too fast. Helicopters though, you throttle back and you're heading down. No thermal lift, no glide.

How would drones compare? (And would a couple of TPS people have to move to Nevada, where they have those trailers/bunkers?)

[ETA: Just kidding with the parenthetical.]

 

[Kilroy]

Yeah, but you don't know which outcome Renata is praying for.

Do you think she would inherit Rob's portion of the Doug Ford SR Trust Fund, or does that go to the family?
Kathy can't even get anything without Doug Jr's say, so I'll bet Renata will be persona non grata.
She's not blood.