TonyV
Senior Member
Brian Burke for mayor.
I don't see this. I've worked in similar workplaces ... I saw a Rumanian once launch a bigoted tirade about another ethnic group from his country ... but nothing else jumps to mind in the last decade or two. I've heard some class-based stuff ... but given the targets were from all races, it really wasn't racial/ethnic/gender. Yes, I guess it still seems okay to bash male and females ... not sure why. But other than that.
If you are aware of real bigotry, and failing to report it to the authorities at your place of employment, then you are part of the problem.
Oh, I'm sure there is still some backwards people out there ...You may lead a sheltered life and not see it, but I assure you there is a lot of hidden racism out there unfortunately.
Indeed ... seems to be something other than just prejudice or discomfort. There's a deeper story here ... not sure what it is though. Sometime these things are driven by religion; but other members of his family aren't reacting like this.Ford panders to communities in Toronto 1/30th the size of the LGBTQ community. Something doesn't smell right.
Originally Posted by Filip
So if our mothers have right-leaning political views we should kill them or shun them from our lives?
Good to know you've reinforced my opinions of you. You're a creep.
Yeah, I agree with you. His post was a new low for this board. He's a douche.
He's also creep because he decided to make a reference to my mother and lump her in with the Archie Bunker category which was an intentional insult, knowing nothing about my mother besides that she had rules and didn't tolerate nonsense while raising me. You know what? She had rules and was tough but she also had gay friends and never once made a negative comment about any ethnic/racial group.
I said it before, I'll say it again. People who considered in any way conservative or old fashioned get treated like shit on this board and elsewhere.
And of course, this attempt to play down immigrants' votes for Ford hinges on them being ignorant. The same old, tired attacks by those against Ford. He only won because a bunch of dumb simpletons from backwards countries with outdated cultural attitudes voted him into power. This person's post on immigrants is highly offensive.
However, you conveniently overlooked the context in which I framed said "matricide"; which is not only in terms of conservatixm, but also in terms of dimwitted philistinism. Y'know, being a patsy to the smooth-talking aluminum siding or home-reno huckster. Not that your mother *was* like that...but, tkip, you never seem to address the culture/taste issue in my barbs. Indeed, the way you talk about and defend your mother, I get very little sense of a household with much "cultural" going on.
Though it does bring to mind something else recently from the "Miscellany" photo thread...
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Now, politically speaking, that can be spun two ways. One might be the "there goes the neighbourhood" trip espoused by neighbourhood activists (NIMBY or not), heritage activists and advocates of "urban sensitivity", whether Jane Jacobite or not. They'd advocate voting to prevent more like that. And then there'd be the "property rights" advocates who'd advocate voting *against* those meddlesome NIMBYs and hysterical-preservationists...for whom a Mayor Ford is the cat's pyjamas.
Honestly, I don't get the latter bunch. They seem narcissistic, piggish, and as overwrought as a stripper's silicone implants. And in urban terms, they are, to me, metaphorically equivalent to the bad-apples-raised-in-dysfunctional-households which tkip contrasts his own solid upbringing to.
Yet, let me say this...this is where "taste matters". Like, if you're from an otherwise-loving household with negligible taste and culture, you're more likely to commit that kind of a teardown. And as far as I'm concerned, that pretty well renders the "functional upbringing" all for naught.
Oh boy. You may lead a sheltered life and not see it, but I assure you there is a lot of hidden racism out there unfortunately.
Okay, so you're toeing the "Ford is not homophobic" line -- how do you explain his reluctance to attend not just the parade but also Pride events that literally take place within the building where he works? Is it your opinion that his lack of attendance is the result of a series of madcap coincidences and scheduling problems?
Bullshit. Many, if most people aren't racist or sexist.You can't change it. It's part of every culture, every society, every group of people on the planet regardless of your background.
People -- they're the worst!What I said earlier.
Below the surface in our supposedly progressive society is a massive undercurrent of racist/sexist attitudes and views. Look, this is basic human behavior. You can't change it. It's part of every culture, every society, every group of people on the planet regardless of your background. As I said before, it's all been driven underground now. People are faking a lot of their understanding and playing nice.
We haven't changed at all. We just learned to hide it better.
I'm taking it as he feels uncomfortable which is not the same as disliking.
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I think he'd rather not being around a bunch of gay people the same reason many of us would feel uncomfortable being around any group we couldn't identify with.
There you go again with insults that you pretend aren't insults. Now referring to my household as not being very "cultural" because I defended my mother?! You put my mother in the same category as Archie Bunker and I was suppose to overlook this and see the greater context? I didn't misinterpret anything. Your intention was to offend.