I really dislike these piecemeal right turn on red provisions - it should be all across the city. And I say this as someone who was fined for turning right on a red at an intersection where it was prohibited way, way back in the day.
Yeah. The roads here are shockingly (and overly) wide. To the detriment of the future street life of the area IMO.As a driver, it feels surprisingly cushy like driving in the far suburbs rather than a city centre. I haven't walked in the area yet, but huge expanses of roadway like at this intersection don't look that inviting.
I assume owing to the wide-open nature of the building sites here that no lane closures will be needed in this area in the future.^ Once all the pylons disappeared and the final street layout became useful, it has exceeded my expectations by miles. Final tweaking may make it even better.
The real test will come as construction begins to develop the area. There will be on street lane closures, and more cars making turns into the new sidestreets - and then car volumes will rise further. Not many pedestrians or cyclists as yet.
These are the “good old days”.
I generally only drive through the area at the moment, but what surprises me is how wide the new streets are. Dundas is 6 lanes wide. As is Kipling. Bloor is 4-6 lanes wide. As a driver, it feels surprisingly cushy like driving in the far suburbs rather than a city centre. I haven't walked in the area yet, but huge expanses of roadway like at this intersection don't look that inviting.
If the goal was to urbanize the area I have to agree: it’s 100% a failure. I’m really curious what the goal of the city departments and planners involved was, and whether they consider it a success or a failure. Sadly we will never know.To me, this is emblematic of City departments that have read all the design manuals but don't actually know what they're doing -- they have many of the discrete elements of good neighbourhood-building, but they obviously had no idea how to actually knit it together.
It's a minimum of 4 lanes, plus turning lanes at intersections and a concrete median. That's the narrowest street.