Responding to an old post, but I just wanted to say that that HRC 'report' was complete gutter trash. I would ask are black males not vastly over represented in crime, violence and murder incidents in Toronto/GTA? If the answer is yes, then how is it not logical that they would also be vastly over represented in use of force cases?
You're exhibiting a worrying trend in your posts, pontificating without evidence and doing so in a way that demeans or devalues groups of people other than you/yours.
You were at with pedestrians the other week, now black people.
Perhaps you might consider taking the time to think how it would read to you if the report above talked about disproportionate use of force or over-policing against the group you're a part of; then to read, that lots of other people who look like you may be committing crimes, so the police illegally beating them isn't really a problem.....would make you feel.
And specifically with gun crime:
2014 - 177 shootings, 242 victims
2019 - 492 shootings, 771 victims
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Is anyone not concerned about these numbers or that in 2016 when the number of shooting incidents doubled in number it hasn't gone back down since and we've averaged about 400 shootings the past few years until 2019 where it neared 500?
Relevant to this discussion how? Of course, everyone here would like to see fewer shootings, though again, the key is to measure 'rate' (per capita) instances of crime, not the absolute number, seeing as we have a rapidly growing population.
But that is not the point of this thread.
I'm pretty damn sure that everyone knows who's committing like 95% of these shootings and are also the victims in most of these incidents as well. So WHY WOULDN'T police spend more resources in targeting those groups of people involved to get them off the streets?
Really, you are, are you? 95%? So, there were 76 homicides last year, and by implication of that number you believe 72 were committed by the same demographic group, very clearly in your mind, black people.
Any evidence of that? A disproportionate number would surely be a reasonable statement. But 95%? Right, you substantially diminished any credibility you had, which wasn't much.
There isn't much 'systemic bias', only certain groups of people who continually commit extremely high rates of crime, violence and murder and then when police try and crack down on them, they cry racism and bias etc. instead of doing the smart thing and admitting that their communities have serious issues and that they'll do everything possible to help police to stamp out crime and violence in their neighborhoods.
No proof, again. Not one citation. Not distinction offered between race as a correlation and economic class as a correlation. Sigh.
I honestly wish the police and especially our political leaders had the courage to release race based crime data so that there wouldn't be anymore hiding as to who was committing the most or least crime in Toronto/GTA and we could see the true scope of the problem and then get those communities that are most affected by crime and violence to actively help instead of staying silent and/or blaming everyone but themselves for their problems
First, that's a serious run-on sentence. I'm not normally the grammar police around here, but as you've taxed my patience quite thoroughly, I am now.
Second........
You notice how I've been harping on and on about citations and evidence............there might be a reason.
www.torontopolice.on.ca
As per that page, which you would get on your first page of any google search on 'race-based data' and Toronto Police; data collection begins this month with publication to begin no later than next year.
