rdaner
Senior Member
I am hoping that this mega-project can be built in phases to make it more manageable.
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Quebec-Windsor Corridor
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micheal_can
Senior Member
Considering that the plan is to do the Havelock Subdivision first, and then the rest of the Corridor after, it seems that it will be.
rdaner
Senior Member
^Great! It may not be relevant to this thread but I was chatting with someone who worked with ML and he said that they have explored platform expansion in a really theoretical sense and the best option appears to be tunneling under the current tracks like the RER station at Gare du Nord in Paris.
And Oxford Properties must be loving this proposal as they own everything between York and the convention centre plus air rights over the tracks. Not too shabby!
And Oxford Properties must be loving this proposal as they own everything between York and the convention centre plus air rights over the tracks. Not too shabby!
guavadelic
Active Member
Could be wrong, but seems HxR will have a new name/branding seperate from VIA rail. Indicatations are the new consortium that's awarded the contract will be free to name the service what they want.
smallspy
Senior Member
That's going to be very dependent on how and where the line is built, and how it is staged.
It will be very hard to use it in stages if the first section is built from Peterborough to Perth, for instance. If the first section opened was from Montreal to Ottawa, then that could be used immediately.
Dan
lenaitch
Senior Member
That's a 2006 article. Hint: the extension has already been completed. Not a word about extending Hwy 412. Try again.404 Extension a Highway to Sprawl, Environmental Groups Charge | Pembina Institute
The extension of Highway 404 to Ravenshoe Road in the Town of East Gwillimbury (York Region), announced in the March 23 Ontario budget, and confirmed in the estimates released April 11, threatens the newly established Golden Horseshoe Greenbelt and will promote sprawling urban development of...www.pembina.org
ARG1
Senior Member
The extension of the 404 to Ravenshoe was always intended to be a sort of "Phase 1" for a future extension to Hwy 12. You can see this by how the highway suddenly and inexplicably curves east right before actually reaching Ravenshoe Road. The ultimate goal of course is to provide people an alternate way to reach Northern Ontario by travelling on the east side of Lake Simcoe.
However this is the first time I'm hearing of a 412 extension north to meet it.
micheal_can
Senior Member
"The long-term plan for the highway includes an extension eastward along the south shore of Lake Simcoe all the way to Highway 12." The work is not done it seems.
As for the 412 extension:
generalcanada
Senior Member
Quebec, Ontario billionaires join bidding for Via HFR electric train deal | Globalnews.ca
Global News learned that in 2023 federal officials planned to pay up to $20 million to each bid group for their 'compliant' high-frequency electric railway proposals - win or lose.
globalnews.ca
Apperently some billionaires are backing the bidders.
Adjei
Senior Member
The province should be advocating for a phase 2 of this kind going through Pearson, Kitchener, London, and Windsor.
micheal_can
Senior Member
If it were done in 3 phases, Phase 1 would be the TOM, Phase 2 would be west of Toronto. Phase 3 would be east of Montreal.
crs1026
Superstar
If the intent is to shift modal share from the highways and reduce the need to build more roads, then Phase 1 should be west of Toronto. That's where the current congestion is objectively worst and the greatest untapped market is located. Frankly, driving from Toronto to Ottawa or Montreal isn't at the level of a "serious societal impact" - whereas road congestion west of the GTA is.
But, that's a political quagmire in terms of interprovincial politics and federal provincial cooperation.
I know it won't happen - but Just sayin'.
- Paul
micheal_can
Senior Member
I do agree with you, but this is more political than congestion driven.
Urban Sky
Senior Member
TOM as Phase 1, SWO as Phase 2 and MQ as Phase 3 would indeed be the most logical sequence, especially now that the Mont-Royal tunnel has been thrown down the drain. However, Ontarians have nobody else than their provincial governments to blame for pursuing their own HSR election stunt pet project (Wynne) and cancelling it (Ford) without ever inviting VIA and HFR-TGF to expand the scope west of Toronto…
urbancog
Active Member
WRT the Global News article:
The scope of the current RfP is Toronto - Peterborough - Ottawa - Dorval - Montreal - Trois Riviere - Quebec City. There was a commitment to look at improving rail services in SW Ontario but nothing was added to the RfP scope.
hfr-tgf.ca
Also, it is not news that the RfP process included payments to the 3 proponents. That was clearly stated when the RfP was issued and justified by ownership of all deliverables transferring to the HFR project team on submission, so they can merge & repackage ideas if appropriate.
The scope of the current RfP is Toronto - Peterborough - Ottawa - Dorval - Montreal - Trois Riviere - Quebec City. There was a commitment to look at improving rail services in SW Ontario but nothing was added to the RfP scope.
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Also, it is not news that the RfP process included payments to the 3 proponents. That was clearly stated when the RfP was issued and justified by ownership of all deliverables transferring to the HFR project team on submission, so they can merge & repackage ideas if appropriate.