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lenaitch said:
I agree. I suspect history will find the study sitting on the same shelf as the one for the 401 tunnel.

If the intent is export, expecting international customers and shippers to use a Seaway Max fleet seems rather inefficient.
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Zero chance of Seaway Max oil tankers. Churchill plus some heavy icebreakers would probably make more sense. The number of tankers required to make any meaningful dent in export capacity would present a pretty high risk to the fresh water supply of like a hundred million people and fairly unique and sensitive ecosystems.
 
If Ford and Smith don't like our constitution, they can find another country to move to where the rule of law is more to their liking. And likely for many of us will be happy to see them go.
 
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afransen said:
When you have a vulnerability that is not easily or quickly addressed, you should not call undue attention to it. Such a tit-for-tat could escalate in other ways. Does the US want to continue to use the Seaway? Or maybe Canada needs to conduct lengthy inspections of vessels carrying American cargo before they can pass through those waterways.

From a domestic security standpoint, there is an argument to be made for not relying (solely) on pipelines that pass through the US. However, if the US were escalating to the point of cutting off our energy supply, what's to say they wouldn't use kinetic means to cut our pipelines and critical infrastructure. There is next to nothing we could do to stop them, such a strike could be done in hours. Where such an attack would go is unclear, occupying Canada would be untenable. If they couldn't hold Iraq or Afghanistan, I don't think they could hold Canada.
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The more compelling argument for an east-west pipeline is to free the eastern provinces from dependence on almost a million barrels a day of American oil. It is crazy that Canada is importing oil from any country. A side benefit of an east-west pipeline is that it would free us from dependency on Line 5. I don't know why this has not been a top priority for this country going back decades.
 
Northern Light said:
- Feasibility Study. (Not an EA, not a real proposal, not a tender to build)

- Explore the benefits of... (not make a determination as to any particular project or its ultimate form)

- I would read the last part as follows.

To new and established refineries in southern Ontario And/OR New ports on any or all of James Bay, Hudson's Bay or the Great Lakes.

I don't think one should seriously read in the idea that there is anything like a concrete proposal for a James Bay deep water port at this point, or a new Hudson's Bay one in Ontario.
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It sounds like another 401 tunnel, paying lip service to an 'out-there' proposal with zero chance of happening.
It's unfortunate they're willing to spend political capital on unrealistic projects when there are much more worthy infrastructure projects they could push forward.
 
guavadelic said:
It sounds like another 401 tunnel, paying lip service to an 'out-there' proposal with zero chance of happening.
It's unfortunate they're willing to spend political capital on unrealistic projects when there are much more worthy infrastructure projects they could push forward.
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I do think there is a desire of a new pipeline in Ontario even if it never reaches tidewater for the simple reason that the pipeline that routes through Michigan is highly controversial there and nearing its end of life.

There is no all-Canadian route from the west to Ontario's refineries in Sarnia.

That part is likely realistic...........the rest........well.........not as much so.
 
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Northern Light said:
I do think there is a desire of a new pipeline in Ontario eveni if it never reaches tidewater for the simple reason that the pipeline that routes through Michigan is highly controversial there and nearing its end of life.

There is no all-Canadian route from the west to Ontario's refineries in Sarnia.

That part is likely realistic...........the rest........well.........not as much so.
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Agreed, we will eventually need a pipeline from the west through Ontario for domestic energy security. The port of James Bay though...
 
guavadelic said:
It sounds like another 401 tunnel, paying lip service to an 'out-there' proposal with zero chance of happening.
It's unfortunate they're willing to spend political capital on unrealistic projects when there are much more worthy infrastructure projects they could push forward.
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It seems they feel they have a good stock of political capital in their savings account: school boards, conservation authorities, speed cameras. When needle doesn't twitch, keep on keeping on.
 
PL1 said:
The cornerstones on some of the Blocks/buildings next to Queen'sPark refer to the Prime Minister of Ontario. Old/former title. Still is currently incorrect
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Interesting side note........ (you're correct btw)............BUT... . the official title for the head of the Ontario Government in French is Premier Ministre d' Ontario.

That has always been the title in French, which has never changed.

Of course 'Premier' in English was borrowed from the French as a way of creating a distinct title from that of Federal Prime Minister.

The formal title in English was Prime Minister of Ontario from 1934 until 1971 when Bill Davis had the title reverted to Premier.
 

Doug Ford says he rejected two Mark Carney requests to pull anti-tariff ad​


https://archive.ph/06uhv#selection-3761.26-3761.100

Ford said Carney called him from Asia and asked Ford to pull the ad. Ford said he would run the ad over the weekend during the World Series.

Timeline:
  • October 23: The ad airs on the 1st game of the World Series
  • October 23: Trump posts to Truth Social that the ad is "fake" and a "hostile act," and Trump says he is cutting off trade talks
  • October 24: Doug Ford says he will pull the ad on Monday after running it on the World Series games on Saturday and Sunday
  • October 25: Carney calls Ford from Asia and asks him to pull the ad immediately. Ford declined and said he will pull it on Monday
  • October 25: Trump says he is putting an additional 10% tariff on Canada
It is clear from the timeline that Carney did not tell Ford not to air the ad when it was first shown to him before airing, and only told Ford to pull the ad after Trump cut off trade talks. Ford did Canada a favor by exposing the trade talks as being a complete sham. Trump has been tapping Carney along for over 8 months, and Trump latched on to the Reagan ad to suspend the trade talks with Canada. It should be clear to people now what Trump's game plan is. It has been clear to me for months.

Ford said he would never apologize to Trump, adding:

“Donald Trump’s trying to destroy our province, destroy our country, steal manufacturing jobs and auto sector jobs, the list keeps going on. I’ll never apologize to President Trump, and I’m going to continue fighting for the people of Ontario.”

Of course, Ford is right. A Canadian politician should never apologize to Trump. It was Trump who started this war. It was Trump who explicitly declared he was going to destroy our economy. Carney's groveling apology is one of the most shameful and disgusting acts of any Canadian Prime Minister.
 
EBT said:

Doug Ford says he rejected two Mark Carney requests to pull anti-tariff ad​

Of course, Ford is right. A Canadian politician should never apologize to Trump. It was Trump who started this war. It was Trump who explicitly declared he was going to destroy our economy. Carney's groveling apology is one of the most shameful and disgusting acts of any Canadian Prime Minister.
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Though I agree that an apology for publishing 'the truth' is usually NOT a good thing, you need to remember who we are dealing with here. Trump is both amazingly thin skinned and very impulsive. Sometimes one DOES need to apologise for something that is either (or both, in this case) not your fault or not worthy of apology because it's true. There are also 'apologies and apologies" and I remind you of the famous one in UK parliament. Insert your own punctuation. "Yes, I said that you are ugly it's true I am sorry for it."
 
EBT said:
Of course, Ford is right. A Canadian politician should never apologize to Trump. It was Trump who started this war. It was Trump who explicitly declared he was going to destroy our economy. Carney's groveling apology is one of the most shameful and disgusting acts of any Canadian Prime Minister.
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Ford has been running for PM since he was a noob councillor. This isn't *really* about what's best for Ontario or Canada, it's what best fits the image he wants to convey for when he ultimately runs for the top job.
 
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