Yeah, let's move RC Harris to where Osgoode Hall now stands...I think we'd need to dig a canal up University, though, but at least that might kill the Opera House!
Holy frak, you people are in the Dark Ages! Even Greenwood Yard is being considered to be decked over to house condos. Why do spaces have to remain as one thing for all of eternity? I'm telling you, and I'm say this with all virtuosity, if this were London or Seoul we'd have subway lines that stretch over 200 kms or the equivilent of Queens Quay to Barrie. It's not too much to ask suggesting the Beaches get a subway, especially when it's so close to the core and along a major artery.
None of the park will be redeveloped. It is a park.
You're joking right? *cough* fright lines *cough* arterial roads *cough* privately owned properties within *cough* the Zoo *cough* line would be within preexisting ROW *cough* if ridership's the problem, we've seen worse on the existing system *cough* nuff said :evil !
So now you want Fallingbrook razed and replaced with condos?
IF! Must you overanalyze everything I say?
Yet you'd destroy every park and recognizable building in the city to house them if it'd justify your ridiculous monorail plans...
When was the last time you've been to Rouge Park? I bet you can't answer cause to millions it's just a patch of dirt standing in the way of progress. You fight so hard to preserve something that is valueless to you meanwhile people in the northeast are 2-3 hrs away from the core. Your vapid attempts to save it (albeit I'm continually misquoted as saying the entire frigging thing must be bulldozed when development if any would just border the Zoo, less than 10 percent of the total area [even NYC's bigger]) will only lead to more car use= more pollution= ecological damage to your precious park= self-destruction= "Dear God, why didn't we only listen :\ ?!".
The DRL would go diagonally through those areas, connecting them with the CBD and with the Bloor/Danforth line. Then add the Queen line, which is perfectly free to continue on past them. Parkdale and Riverdale can get two subways...it's really not complicated.
Your certainty that DRL will happen, only asserts my view point that if Queen was overlooked for BD, it'll be again only this time with another line right on its heels, so that areas from Cliffside, Birchmount, Fallingbrook, Beach, Leslieville, all the intermediate nodes north of the DRL (you tell me if people will like walking from Queen down to Front), High Park, Swansea, Kingsway, Mimico, Lakeshore Village, Long Branch, Alderwood and Sherway will forever be stuck with buses. If you suggested DRL with some assemblance of a Queen Line as part of the deal, you'd never hear me bring up the inequity again.
It wasn't a compliment :rolleyes !
Do you also understand that it's one of Toronto's most important heritage sites? Of course you don't care about that.
No I did not know, thanks for the info
. For me, anytime I'm down there and want to jog directly from the Beaches to Bluffs I'd scratch my head bewildered as to why this behemoth bunker thingee was impeding my walking path. It's a beautiful-looking area and despite what you and Scarb think, I feel a subway would only enhance its embience and accessibilty. Think Beaches Jazz Festival and various other events thrown by the area. Why should selfish NIMBYs reserve it for only the elite, access for everyone I say.
Even Beech (pun intended) Stn would be modelled after Southern Californian style beach fair with a grotto-platform/mezzanine/exit all on same level- linking the station directly to the beach complete with storage lockers, a West 49-style retail area, even ska/punk over the intercoms. Okay maybe I'm going a bit overboard but the point is, I see expansion as more than connect the dots, I see it as connecting the people with the best the city has to offer.
10% of the park. It's a park!
I hope you'll still be shrieking that when the population explosion leads to turf wars and shanty towns along Beare Road :lol !
There's something to be said for a Queen Line, but certainly not out to windy roads with ravine homes.
But if it has to go to Warden/Kingston anyway why not stop there? This is the core, the leap from VP to Warden might have flown further north but certainly the same can't be expected of the downtown core. Even if I scratched Fallingbrook I'd run it to Neville Pk, maybe putting the whole platform to the east of it to lessen the need for a separate FB stop.
Sorry to disrupt your ideas with facts.
You quote a bygone, antiquated statistic from the early 90s and expect me to believe it as fact? Even if that were the case today (far from it) it's too close to BD to justify a subway near it. Furthermore if that DRL you all are pushing becomes a reality, Gerrard/Carlaw and College/Lansdowne also get linked up lessening its worth even further. Queen, midway between the harbourfront and BD is so obviously the best candidate I don't why I'm wasting my time here defending it! It has nodes, extremely high ridership, goes through the municipal/corporate crown jem of Canada and is the only route capable of bringing in 0000s (since 000s aint high enough a figure to sway you people) from the suburbs, what's more to dispute :smokin !?!
How are they not much closer to the DRL than to the Queen line?
You're talking a trivial number of yards away unless I have no idea where these places are. Church/Front and River/Queen would be really close I know that. Distillery? Not evreywhere can be reached my friend, Queen/Parliament's close enough!
