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I really need to know what people, particularly these younger people, see in the PP CPC party.

Have you seen the economic and quality of life stats for young people today? Why would they vote for the party that put them in that position?

To be fair, the Liberals have done a few things that have benefitted youth, e.g. the creation of the FHSA, or eliminating interest on student loans; but none of those things matter if you can't even get a job in the first place, or if you've given up on owning a home (yes, I know the FHSA can still be rolled into a RRSP..

Even when the LPC crafts housing affordability policies it always seeks to do so in a way that will never threaten home prices and that just means more debt for the young. FHSA is just another way to milk more out of young people.
 
I was beginning to hope that the right wing bro podcasters becoming less enamored with Trump might have cooled support somewhat.

People need to stop pretending that is just all about the right wing bros. There's genuine reasons young people in Canada are frustrated. Every year that goes by, there's simply more and more CPC voters accruing due to demographic turnover. If things don't improve, I expect a Conservative tsunami as soon as Trump is no longer a pressing threat to Canada.
 
There's genuine reasons young people in Canada are frustrated. Every year that goes by, there's simply more and more CPC voters accruing due to demographic turnover. If things don't improve, I expect a Conservative tsunami as soon as Trump is no longer a pressing threat to Canada.
And for everyone's sake, I hope that when that time comes, there is an actual conservative at the helm of CPC, rather than a fauxervative culture warrior troll that is PP.
 
And for everyone's sake, I hope that when that time comes, there is an actual conservative at the helm of CPC, rather than a fauxervative culture warrior troll that is PP.

The problem is the culture war is what brings them in. When things look bleak, you want someone to blame, and modern right is all about how YOU are the victim, and finding someone to blame it on. It's incorrect, but it's simple and it works. Without the culture war stuff, the cons are basically just blue liberals, mostly indistinguishable. The left can counter this, but in this day and age, you need a great speaker and communicator, and someone who has been consistently on the correct side, without any hint of corruption and crucially, not getting rich of the existing system, to have a chance. These are few and far between.
 
And this relates to the thread topic how?

Just updating on the global presence of our new strategic partner. I caught this press release by the PM ('PM Carney's Canada') just the other day.


I see that China, our strategic partner, has good links with Russia and Europe. I wonder if one day there will ever be a BRICCs? Gosh, that would be surprising!

 
In some countries, the young have turned to the Greens, in others to the conservatives (if in opposition). It would seem to be a vote against the status quo centre.
UK is a good example of this right now. Currently the polls are being split between the far right Nigel Farage and a progressive Zack Polanski. Both populist, both anti establishment. People are looking for a change and turning to anyone who will offer it to them.
 
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In some countries, the young have turned to the Greens, in others to the conservatives (if in opposition). It would seem to be a vote against the status quo centre.
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And the status quo centre or even left <-> right, liberal <-> conservative is often an illusion of choice.

Despite many, if not a majority of Urban Toronto lambasting Doug Ford and PP for being clowns / political hacks (often for good reason), the pro-rent seeking behaviour, pro-corporate, pro-landlord, pro-snowwashing policies have not demonstrably changed much under Harper versus Trudeau. Ford versus McGuinty.

To whom does asset inflation and housing unaffordability (Harper and Trudeau) along with rapid population growth that suppresses wages, and indentures a working consumer class (Trudeau) benefit the most? Rent-seeking grocery chains, telecoms, fast-food chains, landlords, and the asset-rich upper class. The knee-jerk reaction to force price ceilings on these industries like rent control and price caps on food will not sustainably improve things.

The main problem is not corporate greed. Profit-maximizing behaviour is a constant across time. They didn't suddenly get more greedy post-2020, to make prices skyrocket. Some people would have you believe Loblaws is evil (debatable), greedy (yes, like all corporations since forever) and that it was evil greed that somehow allowed them to unilaterally increase prices on consumers, not market conditions. Market conditions enable things like laymen's 'price gouging', not the other way around.

Theoretically, Loblaws could sell the exact same quantity of food next year and actually increase their revenues and profits, as long as the demand for food increases due to population growth and the demand is inelastic. All Loblaws has to do is sit back and increase the prices. And can you really blame them? If you were given the choice of more money in your pocket for doing nothing different, would you decline the extra money?

The predominant underlying problem since 2020 is an ever-growing, inelastic demand that further concentrates market power in the hands of the suppliers. Government protectionism ---> lack of competition is another big issue.

Not surprising there is abysmal voter turnout at all levels and general voter apathy.
 
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UK is a good example of this right now. Currently the polls are being split between the far right Nigel Farage and a progressive Zack Polanski. Both populist, both anti establishment. People a looking for a change and turning to anyone who will offer it to them.
Yes, and I am hard-pressed to understand why mainstream parties don't pick up on this discontent and do something about it. Maybe it shows the limits of governments today to affect salaries and house prices - even, it seems, economic growth. Either way, (based on personal experience) it isn't a good sign that the young are waiting longer and longer to get on the housing ladder, have families, etc. Adjusted for inflation, the small house I bought 30+ yrs ago is about 4.5x today's minimum wage.

A phrase I heard from a colleague (lifelong NDP) a while back - the young competing against the world's richest for housing, and the world's poorest for jobs. Hyperbolic, maybe, but enough truth to understand some sources of frustration.
 
The problem is the culture war is what brings them in. When things look bleak, you want someone to blame, and modern right is all about how YOU are the victim, and finding someone to blame it on. It's incorrect, but it's simple and it works. Without the culture war stuff, the cons are basically just blue liberals, mostly indistinguishable. The left can counter this, but in this day and age, you need a great speaker and communicator, and someone who has been consistently on the correct side, without any hint of corruption and crucially, not getting rich of the existing system, to have a chance. These are few and far between.
Indeed. Any normalized Canadian who supports reasonable immigration and criminal justice reform, who believes in a Canadian identity and wants it defended, who supports Canada standing up for itself against the USA and promoting itself globally, etc., already has a champion in PM Carney. That leaves the CPC with Canada's own deplorables, the resentful, incels, racists, antivaxers and red necks.
 
Reducing to the pre-Justin level would yield a 19% reduction in civil servants at the Federal level, though whether that would yield the same or similar savings in total costs is a bit more murky.
It’s a start. And it starts now.
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Even when the LPC crafts housing affordability policies it always seeks to do so in a way that will never threaten home prices and that just means more debt for the young. FHSA is just another way to milk more out of young people.
Yeah, the strategy seems to just be "hopefully your parents don't live too, too long 🙁 - so you can inherit their assets in due time"

Even for the student loans - it doesn't do anything to solve the escalating cost of tuition (though Ford's underfunding of postsecondary can be partially to blame).
Turns out I can "save" $100/mo if I extend my loan repayment period by 5 years (from 10 to 15). Given 0% interest, of course I'm going to take it, when I can yield more in a HISA / from the stock market.
I wish they did something like no interest for the first X years post-grad, then prime + 0/1% or something like that in the years after instead. At least there would eventually be an incentive to pay back the loan as quickly as possible that aligns with one's professional / earnings development, so the gov't can recycle capital faster.
 

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