Ottawa Transit Developments

[Kyle Campbell]

So Ottawa's airport train will require two transfers to get to the centre of town?! Yowzer, that's...ambitious.

The airport really really wanted that link, even though the value is very questionable. The city itself isn't paying a dime for that one, but will be stuck with the operating costs. Here's hoping stage 3 will fix that, either by twinning the track or converting the se transitway to rail so that one branch could go that direction instead.

 

[jamincan]

I wonder if a better option would be to run the two unit between the airport and the VIA station with an intermediate stop allowing a connection to the Trillium Line. Basically something more akin to the Union-Pearson Express. Connecting the VIA track to the Trillium Line would probably be relatively cheap and it would probably be easier to sandwich a service like that onto the Trillium on the section south of the river.

 

[OCCheetos]

It does mean that the Trillium line has now seen 3 different kinds of rolling stock. Also in Stage 2 operation there will be at least one pair of coupled Lints running along the mainline along with the Flirts.

There will only be two active types of rolling stock on the Trillium Line. (LINT and FLIRT)

The Bombardier Talents were retired 4 years ago and were sold this past December. Their whereabouts and current status are unknown, but last June they were still on a storage track at Walkley Yard.

 

[OCCheetos]

So everything on the Green Line will be diesel electric? What types will they be again?

The LINTs will continue to be straight diesel, and the new FLIRTs will be diesel-electric.

 

[robmausser]

So everything on the Green Line will be diesel electric? What types will they be again?

Yes, just like its been on the Green Line since 2001.

 

[ShonTron]

So Ottawa's airport train will require two transfers to get to the centre of town?! Yowzer, that's...ambitious.

Maybe Ottawa needs a scaled-down version of Montreal's 747 bus for tourists and to serve the north-south Transitway, which will continue to be used into the future - it'd go Ottawa Aiport-Greenboro-Billings Bridge, then via local stops on Bank and Wellington Streets to Rideau Centre, providing alternative connections and getting close to many downtown hotels and tourist stops.

 

[p_xavier]

Maybe Ottawa needs a scaled-down version of Montreal's 747 bus for tourists and to serve the north-south Transitway, which will continue to be used into the future - it'd go Ottawa Aiport-Greenboro-Billings Bridge, then via local stops on Bank and Wellington Streets to Rideau Centre, providing alternative connections and getting close to many downtown hotels and tourist stops.

There's already a bus, the 97 that does that.

 

[OCCheetos]

There's already a bus, the 97 that does that.
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The 97 will be split once the confederation line opens and will only run between Hurdman and the Airport (with the other half going between Tunney's and Bells Corners).
Once the Airport Train line opens then the 97 will be axed.

The main difference between the 747 and the 97 is that we don't have specialized buses with luggage racks here in Ottawa. There practically no place for luggage on our buses.

 

[Allandale25]

There will only be two active types of rolling stock on the Trillium Line. (LINT and FLIRT)

The Bombardier Talents were retired 4 years ago and were sold this past December. Their whereabouts and current status are unknown, but last June they were still on a storage track at Walkley Yard.

Because I'm a visual person, had to add pictures of the vehicles to the map. Did I get this right?

 

[OCCheetos]

Because I'm a visual person, had to add pictures of the vehicles to the map. Did I get this right?

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Yes! That's all correct.
However if you want to add a distinction, the branch to the airport will only use the LINTs (and they won't be coupled to each other on the branch). The platforms on the branch will only support the ~40m long trains, so the FLIRTs will be too long.

 

[jje1000]

Is there any reason why they're having essentially a miniline to the airport instead of interlining the whole thing?

 

[Allandale25]

Yes! That's all correct.
However if you want to add a distinction, the branch to the airport will only use the LINTs (and they won't be coupled to each other on the branch). The platforms on the branch will only support the ~40m long trains, so the FLIRTs will be too long.

Updated!

 

[OCCheetos]

Is there any reason why they're having essentially a miniline to the airport instead of interlining the whole thing?

Track capacity North of South Keys is very limited and increasing it to support interlining would be extremely expensive. Several overpasses, a bridge, and a tunnel would need to be doubled.
North of South Keys can (and will) only support trains every 12 minutes so even if you just interlined every second train from the airport, you'd be leaving service to Riverside South at one train every 24 minutes which is way too low.

 

[robmausser]

Track capacity North of South Keys is very limited and increasing it to support interlining would be extremely expensive. Several overpasses, a bridge, and a tunnel would need to be doubled.
North of South Keys can (and will) only support trains every 12 minutes so even if you just interlined every second train from the airport, you'd be leaving service to Riverside South at one train every 24 minutes which is way too low.

However provisions are being made to be able to interline in the future.

 

[Allandale25]

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