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Ontario Science Centre

rdaner said:
This may have already been floated but I would love to see The Hearn used for the temporary facility! Luminato showed us the way.

Also there is apparently another engineering report coming out on Friday which will show that the Science Centre is unsalvageable.

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ooh this might be that 3rd party peer reviewed study IO said they were going to do. Im very curious if it actually exonerates the ford government
 
toronto.citynews.ca

Province to provide update on Science Centre closure after Ford says it would be 'foolish' to repair it

The Premier has said it would be "foolish" to repair the Ontario Science Centre instead of shutting it down entirely.
toronto.citynews.ca toronto.citynews.ca

There will be a peer-reviewed report and technical briefing today at 11
This really should have been done in the first place.
If its as bad as they say it is, take the full hour-long oral report you say you were given and show it to the people, LOL such easy PR blunders
 
www.thestar.com

Failing infrastructure, damaged roof: Here’s what a second report on the Ontario Science Centre found

A second report about the state of the Ontario Science Centre was released Thursday, a day after Premier Doug Ford called it "an old, decrepit building."
www.thestar.com www.thestar.com

Nothing in the other report that suggests the structure is irreparable - even less that it is cost-ineffective to do so. And guess what - no active building system last half a century without replacement and repairs - geez, you don't buy a new building just because you aren't paying for HVAC replacement or upgrades that you and previous governments should have done.

Trotting out "but think about the kids" as an argument for closure is especially ironic considering the state of schools in the city and the lack of interest on the part of the province to fix it. Premier - you not only chance it - you chose to chance it. All. the. time.

AoD
 
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...it's not a good sign that Doug is using digging in language here though. Means this building is likely going down in bad faith and ill will. /bleh
 
In the meantime, we know absolutely nothing about the actual proposed replacement - no real building plans, no list of exhibits, nothing. The fact that they are even tendering an interim site suggests to me the real replacement won't happen for a long time - and probably trying to use elapsed time and faded memories to set the public up for diminished expectations.

Perhaps we should put a casino, pot shop and bar in there - it would probably solicit more interest from this government. Proposed hands-on learning exhibits/retail outlets:

EtOH!
Munchies
Everyday probability through gambling.

AoD
 
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AlvinofDiaspar said:
In the meantime, we know absolutely nothing about the actual proposed replacement - no real building plans, no list of exhibits, nothing. The fact that they are even tendering an interim site suggests to me the real replacement won't happen for a long time - and probably trying to use elapsed time and faded memories to set the public up for diminished expectations.

Perhaps we should put a casino, pot shop and bar in there - it would probably solicit more interest from this government. Proposed exhibits/retail outlets:

EtOH!
Munchies
Everyday probability through gambling.

AoD
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I think you forgot the Ferris Wheel.

Just so we all know the origins I copy this from Wiki.

The original Ferris Wheel was designed and constructed by George Washington Gale Ferris Jr. as a landmark for the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago; although much smaller wooden wheels of similar idea predate Ferris's wheel, dating perhaps to the 1500s. The generic term "Ferris wheel", now used in American English for all such structures, has become the most common type of amusement ride at state fairs in the United States.[1]
 
DSC said:
I think you forgot the Ferris Wheel.

Just so we all know the origins I copy this from Wiki.

The original Ferris Wheel was designed and constructed by George Washington Gale Ferris Jr. as a landmark for the 1893 World's Columbian Exposition in Chicago; although much smaller wooden wheels of similar idea predate Ferris's wheel, dating perhaps to the 1500s. The generic term "Ferris wheel", now used in American English for all such structures, has become the most common type of amusement ride at state fairs in the United States.[1]
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I am sure we can work Centripetal acceleration into that.

AoD
 
AlvinofDiaspar said:
I am sure we can work Centripetal acceleration into that.

AoD
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Gotta show some love for AoD's lexicography.

(sincerely)

Centripetal is not just an everyday word to most!

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I expect some may not get the meaning, and even if looked up, they may not get the relationship to @DSC 's comment, so I will offer:

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From: https://www.eng.uwo.ca/outreach/files/STEM-Home/Week-4/Round-and-Round-Ferris-Wheel-Design.pdf
 
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Doug's purple prose on the state of the OSC befits his architectural taste, if we take his new cottage as proof (and it *really* looks like it was designed by one of his son-in-laws or daughters' beaus: "who needs architects, you can do anything with CAD programming these days")

https://twitter.com/x/status/1807125297944216039
 
re: Land ownership - I vaguely recall a portion of the OSC lands was transferred to the province as part of a deal to fill the Toronto budget hole - it may have been during the Mel or Miller era. Does anyone recall?

AoD
 
Whatever the severity of the issues at hand, Doug Ford's "you'll fall off your chair" rhetoric re what ails the OSC is nothing more than carny talk. It's like a computer guy saying "you'll fall off your chair" re whatever viruses might be floating within your computer, regardless of the fact that *anyone* who isn't a computer guy and doesn't do computer-guy stuff with a computer every, say, month or so would have said stuff floating within and not obviously harmful unless "provoked". Or "you'll fall off your chair" when you find out what your ballpark hot dogs are made of. Or (in a way that his influencer daughters would identify with) "you'll fall off your chair" once you see all that gunk that a Biore deep cleansing pore strip removes from your nose and your face...
 

Oh heres a twist:

The Lease requires that, where the building constructed is damaged by any cause where over 50% of the building is unfit for the purpose of a museum and is not capable of repair/restoration within three years or where the Province fails to make available the funding to repair/restore within one year, both or either of the City and TRCA may terminate the lease with respect to their own lands. Where the lease is terminated, the City/TRCA can elect to either take possession of the buildings on the Site or require the Province restore the Site to its original condition at the expense of the Province
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Also staff saying its not feasible to run the science center. it would require a full doubling of the entire arts budget just for the science center
 
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