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Ontario Northland/Northern Ontario Transportation

I heard through the grapevine that the ONTC Siemens Chargers/Ventures will begin fabrication at Siemens Sacramento next month (May 2024). Curious what nose cone we get, since renderings of two versions have been floating around.
How long would the fabrication of them take?
 
It seems that a VIA Venture coach being finalized in Sacramento has a unique paint scheme (yellow on top and bottom). Any reason why this one has a different livery? Source.

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This was posted on the Via page yesterday. It has everyone confused on the livery as it looks different than the Via livery. So, what is it?
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This was the liveries shared by the province for the return of the Northlander. To me, it looks like the top one.


Any thoughts?
 
This was posted on the Via page yesterday. It has everyone confused on the livery as it looks different than the Via livery. So, what is it?
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This was the liveries shared by the province for the return of the Northlander. To me, it looks like the top one.


Any thoughts?
Well the pictures from Sacramento are of a special livery VIA train, with VIA logos, and the VIA black stripe, unlike ONTC’s livery 1 which has a dark blue stripe.

ONTC’s units are scheduled to begin production this May, so we’re still a while off from finished Northlander trains.
 
Well the pictures from Sacramento are of a special livery VIA train, with VIA logos, and the VIA black stripe, unlike ONTC’s livery 1 which has a dark blue stripe.

ONTC’s units are scheduled to begin production this May, so we’re still a while off from finished Northlander trains.
Why are they making one a special design that looks close to the Northlander Livery?
 
Why are they making one a special design that looks close to the Northlander Livery?
Just a thought: contact them and ask. The worst they can do is not answer but if they do answer, any response they give will be whole lot more useful than the speculation on here.
 
Not directly related to the restoration of passenger rail service, but this could be convenient to check out at the future Huntsville stop.

I could picture them delivering to the train when it stops. I don't know about anyone else, but for me, that would be a delicious meal.
 
Seeing as they are targetting an opening this month their business model is clearly independent of the return of the train. Once the train returns, and particularly if they move the bus stop to the station, it will help, but both are still pretty infrequent to keep a business going.

As for service to train passengers, if it is allowed, the times are not unreasonable depending on their store hours (0750 sb, 2135 nb if they stick to the times in the business case).
 
Tagging two rail experts, @crs1026 @smallspy, in case they have any insights to share.

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I work that line, I believe there was a connecting track from the CN side to the ONR side that bypassed the ONR yard completely. The current set up has the freight trains going through the wye and into the onr yard, the current straight ends just before Old Callander Rd,
 
I work that line, I believe there was a connecting track from the CN side to the ONR side that bypassed the ONR yard completely. The current set up has the freight trains going through the wye and into the onr yard, the current straight ends just before Old Callander Rd,
It's on Page 66 of the Business Case:

"Reinstatement of track between the Newmarket Subdivision and North Bay station"

There used to be a connecting track between the CN Newmarket Sub and ONR at the diamond where CN continued on to Capreol and I assume they will simply re-create that.

You can sort of see it and the old CN ROW in the centre of the image (Old Callander Rd. is off-screen to the lower right). The old CN ROW runs lower right to upper left and ONR runs lower left (yard and shops to upper right (station). The notice says clearing and grubbing has already been done, which must be fairly recent since I was poking around there about a month ago. I'll have to take a look.


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