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spmarshall
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Chicago newspaper bin, found on Spacing Wire:
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AlvinofDiaspar
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I am not terribly fond of it - looks like Eucan trash bin IMO.
I'd much rather have standardized bins for individual papers.
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I'd much rather have standardized bins for individual papers.
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MetroMan1000
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The ones in San Francisco are gorgeous.
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Archivistower
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ap, newspaper boxes have been banned in Montreal for ages. No free speech challenge there. City owns the sidewalks.
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andreapalladio
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Poor montreal. Hopefully the toronto papers will be less stupid.
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fiendishlibrarian
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Or the city as smart.
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tudararms
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Standardizing boxes is a free speach issue? Sounds like lawyers with too much time on their hands (god help us).
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andreapalladio
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Well, yes. Unless you want the government to decide where, when and how many and which newspapers are sold.
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MetroMan1000
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I think newspaper boxes will still be around. There are places where you find a solo Toronto Star box or a lonely free papers box.
I feel that this will be implemented in only the problem areas where you see 3 or more newspaper boxes.
I feel that this will be implemented in only the problem areas where you see 3 or more newspaper boxes.
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andreapalladio
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I don't see that as a problem. I see that as a sign of a community where information and ideas are important and vital.
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tudararms
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"Well, yes. Unless you want the government to decide where, when and how many and which newspapers are sold"
In the streets yes.
In the streets yes.
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building babel
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The smaller papers rely more on single copy sales than the majors, obviously, because they have no subscriber base.
Still, single copy sales - in corner stores and boxes - figure into the equation at all levels. Blame it on USA Today when they launched, in the early 1980's, with their flashy boxes - the competition was forced to upgrade their street presence too.
The days of the honour system - when you dropped money into the box and took a newspaper from the open pile - disappeared years ago, though I remember it in the 1980's.
The internet, and the spreading rash of free newspapers, is having a huge effect. You can't turn a corner downtown without meeting someone in a suit handing out a Globe, enter a No Frills without having a Star thrust at you, or venture onto a campus without finding piles of newspapers. Colleges and universities themselves now churn out massive numbers of student publications, a niche for each college on campus. The market for print publications is competitive, cluttered and overlapping.
Tidying up Toronto's streetscape by introducing multiple-newspaper vending boxes doesn't mean we restrict the freedom of the press, though it does mean someone has to decide which papers are worthy of a place within - and which are renegade publications that must survive as best they can without.
Still, single copy sales - in corner stores and boxes - figure into the equation at all levels. Blame it on USA Today when they launched, in the early 1980's, with their flashy boxes - the competition was forced to upgrade their street presence too.
The days of the honour system - when you dropped money into the box and took a newspaper from the open pile - disappeared years ago, though I remember it in the 1980's.
The internet, and the spreading rash of free newspapers, is having a huge effect. You can't turn a corner downtown without meeting someone in a suit handing out a Globe, enter a No Frills without having a Star thrust at you, or venture onto a campus without finding piles of newspapers. Colleges and universities themselves now churn out massive numbers of student publications, a niche for each college on campus. The market for print publications is competitive, cluttered and overlapping.
Tidying up Toronto's streetscape by introducing multiple-newspaper vending boxes doesn't mean we restrict the freedom of the press, though it does mean someone has to decide which papers are worthy of a place within - and which are renegade publications that must survive as best they can without.
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andreapalladio
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But the effect of the bins is that the government restricts the availablity of newspapers. That is not something that the government can or should do.
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building babel
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It restricts the availability of free newspapers that have no additional base of paid circulation and delivery far more than the majors.
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andreapalladio
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What happens if someone starts another major newspaper. The government will be in the position of denying them a place to sell it. Not that there is any difference between unreasonable restrictions on the availablility of free newspapers vs. ones that cost money.