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Miscellany Toronto Photographs: Then and Now

Yes, I'm been doing this for awhile now, perhaps a year or so. I'll add a description so people don't click through and see non-Toronto material.

One reason I add these links is that in my opinion only, the really compelling pictures at the online Toronto Archives have already been used in Then and Now comparisons on various websites. So, I was just expanding horizons so to speak. Thanks DSC.
Yes, I don't want to be a grouch and I know you established this wonderful thread and have contributed so much to it so should have and deserve to have some leeway but it may be time to establish a new one that is neither Toronto photos nor then and now. Cheers!
 
Then '373 Yonge, Rio Theatre. c. 1970-1981', according to the online Toronto Archives.

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Now. Evening of July 18, 2016. The lens on my camera wasn't wide enough to replicate the Then picture, so I had to stand off to the side a bit and shoot at an angle to get it all to fit in. So, in this Now pic the Rio formerly occupied the current NYC clothing store. The pinball arcade and the Times Square book store now occupied by Made in China and Korean Grill House.

Still a rather gritty street our Yonge. My memories of it date to the early 60s when my grandfather took me to stroll it. Still, it's authentic.

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Thanks for those, Mustapha -- I love the history of our old movie theatres.

Here's a shot I made in Oct. 2015.

The Rio opened in 1913 as the Big Nickel Theatre, according to the wonderful book I'm now reading, Toronto's Local Movie Theatres of Yesteryear by Doug Taylor.

I'm curious about the signs (AOV) above the former marquee in my photo.

I recall that the Rio ended its life as a "porn palace."

Is it possible that sign represented "Adult Only Video"?

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Thanks for those, Mustapha -- I love the history of our old movie theatres.

Here's a shot I made in Oct. 2015.

The Rio opened in 1913 as the Big Nickel Theatre, according to the wonderful book I'm now reading, Toronto's Local Movie Theatres of Yesteryear by Doug Taylor.

I'm curious about the signs (AOV) above the former marquee in my photo.

I recall that the Rio ended its life as a "porn palace."

Is it possible that sign represented "Adult Only Video"?

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'AOV' = Adult Only Video? Yes it does, I looked it up. Very interesting how they took down those AOV signs and the overhang only recently.

Many tourists staying at the Chelsea hotel walk up and down this stretch of Yonge. They can't be impressed.

And I still miss the Worlds Biggest Bookstore...
 
Adults Only Video was a "thing" in the early 90s: its founder even earned a Maclean's cover story. Then the Internet happened and punched a hole into their business model. I think the Yonge outlet was their attempt at a downtown-hub "superstore", but turned out to be their last gasp...
 
Then '373 Yonge, Rio Theatre. c. 1970-1981', according to the online Toronto Archives.

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Now. Evening of July 18, 2016. The lens on my camera wasn't wide enough to replicate the Then picture, so I had to stand off to the side a bit and shoot at an angle to get it all to fit in. So, in this Now pic the Rio formerly occupied the current NYC clothing store. The pinball arcade and the Times Square book store now occupied by Made in China and Korean Grill House.

Still a rather gritty street our Yonge. My memories of it date to the early 60s when my grandfather took me to stroll it. Still, it's authentic.

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Funny how the 'Sam the Chinese Food Man' would later become another Asian food place! I went to the Sam's with my mom back in 1977 before we went to our summer cottage. Fast forward 39 years later: I returned to Korean Grill House at the end of April when one of my co-workers left for Croatia ! The memories were flooding through my mind then
 
Funny how the 'Sam the Chinese Food Man' would later become another Asian food place! I went to the Sam's with my mom back in 1977 before we went to our summer cottage. Fast forward 39 years later: I returned to Korean Grill House at the end of April when one of my co-workers left for Croatia ! The memories were flooding through my mind then

I know what you're sayin, I make 'mini-pilgrimages' like this to the places of my youth too. :)
 
Then. 1979. Elizabeth Street at Foster Place. Kung Fu club. The club has a name but I can't read Chinese. :(

The Chinatown that thrived here from the 1920s until the early 80s wasn't much to look at but it had the familiar feel of a large village.

This picture is part of the Lawren Harris exhibit at the AGO. I took a picture of it. Harris painted scenes from Toronto's Ward district in addition to his Northern landscapes. Thus there are a number of Ward related photographs on exhibit; such that it is almost a Ward history exhibit. Very worthwhile.

In the left background we see a vacant lot. It's amazing that it was vacant for about 50 years until the present condo - 111 Elizabeth was built.

In the center distance we see the transformer station on Bay Street that is still there.

In the far distance the tall industrial building is one of the Eaton factories. Hard to believe that back in the day what you bought at Eatons may have been made on-site. A few years ago I bought an 'ARROW' shirt - perhaps it was made at their closed-now-a-condo factory (on Benson Street) in Kitchener?

The building on the right with orange trim was a badly run Chinese grocery in the 1960s. I used to sit in there when my paternal gramps and the owner shot the breeze. Owner was a friend of my gramps. Said grocer hit up my gramps for a sizeable for its day loan of $800 which was never repaid. Everyone has their pet thing - my gramps loaned money to hard ups - he was never repaid. Anyways, that's the story he told me. He was never even close to wealthy - a laundryman with no other income except a dying (dying not dyeing :) ) laundry business.

You can also make out a building behind [to the east of] our badly run grocery. The brick work is different. On the ground floor was China Lunch. A greasy spoon right out of a noir film. I wish I had a picture. China Lunch was superseded around 1970 by Hun Doa bakery, which lasted up until 1985. Word on the street was that the Hun Doa closure was the result of protection rackets run by various Chinese or Vietnamese gangs - which were sometimes the same thing. Same for the original Ho King restaurant on the SE corner of Dundas and Larch. That owner moved out to St. Catherines for a few years, doing business there. The current Ho King on Spadina south of College - scene of a recent shooting - maintains several of the menu items faithfully. Good if you like 'Chinese-Canadian' style food. The service is terrible; as in don't leave a tip terrible. I'm digressing.

New paragraph, more on that building. So China Lunch was on the ground floor. Upstairs were offices for a benevolent association - the Kwong Hoi society - a loan society or credit union. Also upstairs - a number of dank hot rooms. These were rented out to elderly Chinese men - they were all men. Kwong Hoi is a district in Toishan China that furnished most of the immigration to North America before the 1970s, and not surprisingly, is the origin point of my family. Their sing song dialect was considered unfathomable and a bit disgusting by the people in Hong Kong 150 kilometers away who spoke a variation of it as a 'prestige' dialect. Those of you with a linguistics bent can look up what a prestige dialect is.

Adrienne Clarkson would be a Toishanese. Then the 1970s saw waves of Chinese immigration from Hong Kong, who arrived better educated, better dressed and better off. Now there is a third wave, Mandarin speaking Chinese nationals.

And to come full circle: the Tim Horton's on Dundas just east of Spadina hosts a coffee klatch of Toishanese of all ages. It's like coming home again without ever having gone to Toishan.

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Now. Evening twilight July 21, 2016.

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I remember going to a bakery tucked away here as a kid. Going to the lung kong up the street and seeing plooms of smoke or steam coming out of stacks at this substation....It is all a blur now, but wish there were some pictures to re ignite my memories....
 
Then '373 Yonge, Rio Theatre. c. 1970-1981', according to the online Toronto Archives.

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Now. Evening of July 18, 2016. The lens on my camera wasn't wide enough to replicate the Then picture, so I had to stand off to the side a bit and shoot at an angle to get it all to fit in. So, in this Now pic the Rio formerly occupied the current NYC clothing store. The pinball arcade and the Times Square book store now occupied by Made in China and Korean Grill House.

Still a rather gritty street our Yonge. My memories of it date to the early 60s when my grandfather took me to stroll it. Still, it's authentic.

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The Rio in 1950:

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The Rio...I vaguely remember attending an all night movie there in and around 1968 or '69. About 4 or 5 movies with the feature which was Magnificent 7 or Magnificent 7 Rides Again, along with a few Kung Fu movies with the REALLY bad dialogue. My friend took me...he was a few years older than me. I think I slept all the next day.
 
Then. 1979. Elizabeth Street at Foster Place. Kung Fu club. The club has a name but I can't read Chinese. :(

Consulting my mother, the photo is of the Toronto Hong Luk Club...It is a group photo in chinatown celebrating its fourth Anniversary....
Taken September 21 1969.....
 
Yeah: by 1979, the Eaton factories were gone. And I think that later-imploded "ghost tower" might have entered the left side of the pic, unless it was still too far...
 
Thank you Koolgreen for that info.

Non-Toronto content at the link below. It's a 72 year old Chinese restaurant in Portland Oregon that has kept all their past menus, digitized them and put them up at their website. A virtual historical walk through one Chinese restaurant's history. Quite neat.

Some of you may remember I posted here a series of vintage Toronto Chinese restaurant menus a few years back. They're still here, because I keep my Photobucket account current. :)

http://www.canton-grill.com/menus.html
 
Update to the IOLA movie theatre (Danforth at Gough) history.
Now (Aug, 2016) for lease again.

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