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I just got my final notice last week. Apparently it will be cancelled if I don't go get the photo health card.Same here! Held together with Scotch tape. You'll pry my red-and-white from my cold, dead hands, Ontario.
I just got my final notice last week. Apparently it will be cancelled if I don't go get the photo health card.Same here! Held together with Scotch tape. You'll pry my red-and-white from my cold, dead hands, Ontario.
this is the correct move that the government is making...should have done it a long time ago....those cards need to be retired.I just got my final notice last week. Apparently it will be cancelled if I don't go get the photo health card.
Yeah, I agree. What I was trying to say is that adHominem might not have a choice in the matter. If he wants OHIP access, that is.this is the correct move that the government is making...should have done it a long time ago....those cards need to be retired.
I just got my final notice last week. Apparently it will be cancelled if I don't go get the photo health card.
They are getting more aggressiveI've received a few 'Final' notices and yet my red and white is still working!
Why? When the government came out with the photo cards, the auditor-general came out with a damning report that showed the cost of the card program was more than the estimated cost of healthcare fraud.this is the correct move that the government is making...should have done it a long time ago....those cards need to be retired.
Why? When the government came out with the photo cards, the auditor-general came out with a damning report that showed the cost of the card program was more than the estimated cost of healthcare fraud.
So we spending more money than we would, letting people sick enough to cheat, get the medical services they need. Massive fail.
http://www.auditor.on.ca/en/reports_en/en13/2013ar_en_web.pdf said:In addition, the risk of fraud exists with the continued use of the 3.1 million remaining older red-and-white health cards still in circulation as well as from frequent transaction processing errors.
http://www.ontla.on.ca/web/committee-proceedings/committee_transcripts_details.do?locale=en&BillID=&ParlCommID=7423&Date=2007-02-12&Business=2006+Annual+Report%2C+Auditor+General&DocumentID=21973#P96_5339 said:The auditor indicated that the Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care should expedite the conversion of the pre-1995 red and white OHIP cards to the current OHIP photo cards in order to properly verify the eligibility of these health card holders,
Not sure what this has to do with Presto.
Yeah, that sounds like an accountant. I'm sure you remember the fuss back in 1996 or so.Really? Cause it seems to me that annually the AG criticizes Service Ontario for still having old cards in circulation.
Why? When the government came out with the photo cards, the auditor-general came out with a damning report that showed the cost of the card program was more than the estimated cost of healthcare fraud.
So we spending more money than we would, letting people sick enough to cheat, get the medical services they need. Massive fail.
Not sure what this has to do with Presto.
this is the correct move that the government is making...should have done it a long time ago....those cards need to be retired.
I don't really...but, whatever, the AG seems to be singing a different tune now (maybe the lesson is to not get to hyped up about AG findings too soon)...http://www.auditor.on.ca/en/reports_en/en13/309en13.pdfYeah, that sounds like an accountant. I'm sure you remember the fuss back in 1996 or so.
In our 2006 OHIP audit, we noted that Health did little monitoring of individual health-card
usage. In 2005, a consulting firm hired by Health estimated the value of consumer fraud in Ontario’s
health-card system at $11 million to $22 million annually. Health had not updated that estimate at
the time of this audit.
In its 2013 budget, the provincial government announced that it would invest $15 million over
three years, starting in 2013/14, to accelerate the conversion of the remaining red-and-white health cards to the more secure photo cards. The full conversion is expected to be completed by 2018.
I agree with this....one provincial card, perhaps a separate federal one but not sure on that.....which has your photo and basic identifying information on its face.....contained in the strip is all the services you are eligible for.Quite frankly, what we should have is a multi-use citizen card - health (and health records), drivers' license, etc should all be handled by that.
AoD
That's just the conversion costs of the few cards that remain. That's nothing compared to the operating cost to replace everyone's every 5 years, and the infrastructure to have the entire system in place.So if they thought the cost too high then (relative to the fraud) they do not think so now.
which G8 countries give tourists free healthcare....certainly not the two I have travelled to frequently ...and we don't either so that is 3 of the 8 accounted for.....need all the other 5 to be yes to get to "most"Preventing fraud for transit might be worth it - after all, we wouldn't want the homeless riding the TTC for free.
But for healthcare? If someone is desperate enough to be cheating to get free healthcare, then what's the big deal? In many, if not most G8 countries, even tourists get free healthcare.
If someone has moved from Boston 4 months ago, and doesn't meet the 6 months required for free healthcare - who really cares.