doady
Senior Member
Presto will be launched on MT's GO shuttle routes (32, 62, 64) on Jan 25, and for all other MT routes on April 18.
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Dan416
Senior Member
I'm sorry please enlighten me as to where Ford promised to implement the $300 million Presto system.
Electrify
Senior Member
doady
Senior Member
If you know nothing about Rob Ford's promises, even something as well-known as his promise to replace streetcars with buses, you probably shouldn't get so defensive when other who actually do know about his promises criticize him.
Ed Drass
Active Member
So ... now that people -- including the mayor -- have got a better feel of how tight the TTC's budget is, when do you reckon we will see PRESTO rolled out across all of Toronto's buses, streetcars and 60+ rapid transit stations? 3 years? 5 years?
Or skip straight to 'Open Payment'?
ed d.
Or skip straight to 'Open Payment'?
ed d.
taal
Senior Member
Are the other systems i.e. YRT / MT / ... spending their own money to implement presto ?
accura407
Car is King
Especially Yorkdale given its probably the most popular subway station for 905 commuters due to its easy access to 401.
Still... 2011 has started of nice with new Presto readers at Downsview Station! So at least the Spadina line has one ready!
TJ O'Pootertoot
Senior Member
It's a cost-sharing agreement with the province, isn't it?
Ah, yeah...I may have quoted this somewhere else but this is how it breaks down for YRT:
MTO pays...
100% Central System Capital
100% Central System Operating
33% Municipal System Capital
York Region pays...
67% Municipal System Capital
100% Municipal System Operating
York Capital Cost - $7.4M
The TTC's problem was always that the sheer scale of its system made that capital cost burdensome (well, that's the problem along with their general desire to go things alone and play power games with Metrolinx...)
SGHA504
New Member
Pretty sure the new stations on the spadina line/york extension are going to have presto machines too. I know its a couple years out, but worth noting.
Ed Drass
Active Member
http://www.mississauga.com/news/article/932847--no-magic-in-presto-hazel
* Torstar Network * Jan 24, 2011 - 7:55 AM
No magic in Presto: Hazel
Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion called the province's new Presto fare card system a "disaster" during a City budget committee meeting, in part because the TTC hasn't entirely bought in.
Martin Powell, Mississauga's Commissioner of Transportation and Works, also lamented the inter-regional fare card's "complicated fare structure."
In April, when Presto becomes operational on buses city-wide, Mississauga Transit will still have the cost of operating a parallel fare system, said Transit Director Geoff Marinoff, because many of the city's bus riders don't have a way to easily top up their cards.
Although that top-up technology is being developed, its current absence means "our aspiration of going 100 per cent Presto is going to take some time," Marinoff said.
Even if Presto were fully adopted by Mississauga's bus riders, "until the TTC accepts the Presto card, it's not going to work. It's going to be ad hoc," McCallion said.
The Presto card, introduced last summer, is a new "smart" fare card, designed to allow commuters to travel easily between different transit systems.
Transit users go to a machine and, with their debit or credit card or cash, they purchase a smart card which they can then load with currency. It is then swiped or tapped as you get on or off a bus, subway or streetcar.
Readers can simply tap on green readers at stations and on buses to have the correct fare deducted on each leg of a trip, including local buses, GO Transit and some Toronto Transit Commission stations.
* Torstar Network * Jan 24, 2011 - 7:55 AM
No magic in Presto: Hazel
Mississauga Mayor Hazel McCallion called the province's new Presto fare card system a "disaster" during a City budget committee meeting, in part because the TTC hasn't entirely bought in.
Martin Powell, Mississauga's Commissioner of Transportation and Works, also lamented the inter-regional fare card's "complicated fare structure."
In April, when Presto becomes operational on buses city-wide, Mississauga Transit will still have the cost of operating a parallel fare system, said Transit Director Geoff Marinoff, because many of the city's bus riders don't have a way to easily top up their cards.
Although that top-up technology is being developed, its current absence means "our aspiration of going 100 per cent Presto is going to take some time," Marinoff said.
Even if Presto were fully adopted by Mississauga's bus riders, "until the TTC accepts the Presto card, it's not going to work. It's going to be ad hoc," McCallion said.
The Presto card, introduced last summer, is a new "smart" fare card, designed to allow commuters to travel easily between different transit systems.
Transit users go to a machine and, with their debit or credit card or cash, they purchase a smart card which they can then load with currency. It is then swiped or tapped as you get on or off a bus, subway or streetcar.
Readers can simply tap on green readers at stations and on buses to have the correct fare deducted on each leg of a trip, including local buses, GO Transit and some Toronto Transit Commission stations.
TOareaFan
Superstar
I am sure it is just a typo....but if you take the front page of the Presto web page at face value.....they do not plan to ever introduce Presto at Brampton:
So they point out that it cannot be used there yet......but in their categories of coming soon areas....there is no mention anymore!
So they point out that it cannot be used there yet......but in their categories of coming soon areas....there is no mention anymore!
SGHA504
New Member
I think its been delayed for 6 months due to the construction.
TOareaFan
Superstar
The construction is over.....I think the last thing was the elevators which went live recently.
Even if it was 6 months away, that is within the scope of the currently published time lines! I am sure they just "forgot" to put it in the timeline above which just advances the feeling that some of has that the whole Presto implementation is being done in an amateur fashion by, well, amateurs!
TOareaFan
Superstar
Thanks....I think they have for some time.....
....like I said, I am sure the Presto web page is just a typo but somehow inline with the very shoddy manner this thing has been rolled out.