... sure, but I don't see the importance of this how many angels can dance on the head of the pin discussion. I never said Metrolinx wasn't an agency, merely that it is the responsibility of MTO.
I'm not blaming Metrolinx. You quite correctly pointed out that Presto isn't aprt of Metrolinx, and I haven't disputed that.
Actually, you did dispute that by saying that Metrolinx is a part of MTO and (paraphrasing) that it's all the same thing, and that all of these government employees need to stop redirecting blame and fix it.
I'm not disputing that it needs to be fixed, but that starts by putting the blame where it belongs.
You quite clearly have been infected by this poisonous work environment at the government, where everyone is far more intersted in their own fiefdoms, than actually accomplishing anything.
I don't work for the government, and never have except for a few years as a summer student. I have spent my entire adult life working in the private sector. But hey, let's not let facts stand in the way when you can post a personal attack.
They the company should be repalced by one that actually works co-operatively with the government paying them $millions. Obviously not having the abiltiy to use one's card without visting someone in person, after the balance goes negative is a huge mistake, that should have been caught by either Presto or Accenture. Not sure what this aspect even has to do with TTC.
I personally think the Accenture contract is messed up beyond belief, and I have real doubts about how long it will take PRESTO to be up and working properly. I'm quite glad that GO buses won't be getting it until 2011, so there is no way I will be a guinea pig on this. But "the company should be replaced"? Depends on what the contract is, but you *do* realize that replacing Accenture at this point will essentially reset the entire project and mean that we will be lucky to have a fare card in the next decade? No, what will happen is that Accenture will have to meet acceptance tests (whatever is in the contract) and possibly face penalties.
Not sure what this aspect even has to do with TTC.
Because TTC is an involved agency, albeit on a limited scale, and has responsibly for planning their involvement, and for testing the results. Trust me when I say that GO has been testing the equipment in their stations. TTC is responsible for doing the same. No, they are not the implementor, but they are still involved and have responsibilities here.
I'm not denying that PRESTO and Accenture have fault there; they absolutely do, but so does the TTC.
Oh come on ... anyone who starts arguing about the legal structure of the Ministry of Transport, rather than the actual issue, clearly is either (or has been) a government employee or contractor.
I'm not arguing over the legal structure; I'm pointing out that you were blaming the wrong people. It's not Metrolinx's responsibility to fix this because they have no involvement in that end of the project.
Anyway, I think we've exhausted this topic. Let's just agree that there is a problem that needs to get fixed, and complaining to the PRESTO project head you listed is the best way to go.