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But I am also OOTL on development projects... In what way was this alignment more favourable to developers?

The Ontario auditor general is supposed to be looking into how Metrolinx decides on station placement for the Ontario Line and the Yonge north extension.

Source: Article from last September.

This is not a direct answer to your question, but I'd like to flag something that might be coming out soon. The article mentions that "Auditor general reports are generally released at the end of each year". If this is the case, its findings might be directly relevant to your question.
 
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We will be postering along all 19km of the line, from Mt. Dennis to Kennedy, to show the Ford Government and Metrolinx that Torontonians are serious about our demands for transparency and accountability into the years of delays and cost overruns.

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I’d be curious whether any of the people organizing/participating have given any thought to the wisdom of this idea.

If the Crosstown's issues are driven by the private consortium pushing contract terms to the limit and exploiting every possible gap to keep their costs down (which it is and they are), and if this is exacerbated by Metrolinx not having adequate leverage to enforce the contract adequately (which it is and they don't),
then a public inquiry risks exposing exactly where Metrolinx is weak while they are paying billions to other private consortia for projects both in market and in delivery.

I know this might seem counterintuitive when we're seeking accountability, but a review and report by the Auditor General makes more sense at this stage. Compelling testimony at an inquiry prior to opening would be incredibly counterproductive as we still don’t know the full scope or final cost of the issues. ProjectCo would immediately shift into liability-control mode resulting in less candour from witnesses and an ass covering mentality when it comes to the disclosure of documents and evidence. These are not the conditions under which a thorough understanding of the issues are going to be brought to light.

If an inquiry proceeds and then all of a sudden the cost of all the subway projects starts to ratchet up by a couple billion each, I hope those calling for an inquiry will be paying close enough attention to understand the connection.
 
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There is a real possibility that as politicians grasp the actual risk level of transit projects, they will shy away from launching new ones because there is too much risk of failure that will attach to their shoes.

P3 was seen as a silver bullet that let politicians amass credit for building while firewalling them from accountability. I think the public has seen through that, thanks to Crosstown and others.

I think a public inquiry into Crosstown is justified. I'm not interested so much in knowing what technical issues arose or how overspends happenned - a $1B overspend on a project of this size is not that remarkable. Stuff happens and things are discovered too late some times. It's the silence that needs to be challenged and held to account. For a guy who claims (er, pretends) to be all about the little guy, Ford shows little sign of accountability with the large amounts of taxpayer money involved.

The Ottawa inquiry was useful not so much for its explanation of why the trams didn't work, as how the politicians meddled and made things worse. The Crosstown inquiry should reveal the same. It would also shed light in how the entire food chain - ML brass, ML Board, MOT and Premier/Cabinet - behaved. That's what needs correcting.

- Paul
 
There is a real possibility that as politicians grasp the actual risk level of transit projects, they will shy away from launching new ones because there is too much risk of failure that will attach to their shoes.

P3 was seen as a silver bullet that let politicians amass credit for building while firewalling them from accountability. I think the public has seen through that, thanks to Crosstown and others.

I think a public inquiry into Crosstown is justified. I'm not interested so much in knowing what technical issues arose or how overspends happenned - a $1B overspend on a project of this size is not that remarkable. Stuff happens and things are discovered too late some times. It's the silence that needs to be challenged and held to account. For a guy who claims (er, pretends) to be all about the little guy, Ford shows little sign of accountability with the large amounts of taxpayer money involved.

The Ottawa inquiry was useful not so much for its explanation of why the trams didn't work, as how the politicians meddled and made things worse. The Crosstown inquiry should reveal the same. It would also shed light in how the entire food chain - ML brass, ML Board, MOT and Premier/Cabinet - behaved. That's what needs correcting.

- Paul
Like claiming that the rail gauge is out of spec when it is within the acceptable margin.
 
If the Crosstown's issues are driven by the private consortium pushing contract terms to the limit and exploiting every possible gap to keep their costs down (which it is and they are), and if this is exacerbated by Metrolinx not having adequate leverage to enforce the contract adequately (which it is and they don't),
then a public inquiry risks exposing exactly where Metrolinx is weak while they are paying billions to other private consortia for projects both in market and in delivery
I also have a belief that the contactors add in enough cushion that even if they end up paying all the delay or other penalties, they still are making a decent profit.
 
P3’s were brought in so the Toronto Sun couldn’t make headlines about an accidental expense claim for orange juice.
Assuming that is true, that would be a huge mistake in hindsight. P3s cost so, so much more than traditional procurement in Ontario. Maybe P3s can be done effectively in other provinces and countries, but certainly not in the current political and legal environment of Ontario.
 
I also have a belief that the contactors add in enough cushion that even if they end up paying all the delay or other penalties, they still are making a decent profit.
Guaranteed. Every change request from the owner or operator carries with it not only a fee, but a fee to assess the cost of the fee. The quote they provide will absolutely be geared towards profit maximization and unless someone on the Metrolinx side has the time or expertise to vet it line by line, ProjectCo will likely get what they quote.

There have been projects where Metrolinx has made a change request, completed the work required to enable the change to proceed (ie there was no extra labour required on ProjectCo's part), the request came at a delivery stage that was years before substantial completion and therefore the project could absorb the change logistically, and ProjectCo still put forward an exorbitant quote to make it happen.
 
There is a real possibility that as politicians grasp the actual risk level of transit projects, they will shy away from launching new ones because there is too much risk of failure that will attach to their shoes.

P3 was seen as a silver bullet that let politicians amass credit for building while firewalling them from accountability. I think the public has seen through that, thanks to Crosstown and others.

I think a public inquiry into Crosstown is justified. I'm not interested so much in knowing what technical issues arose or how overspends happenned - a $1B overspend on a project of this size is not that remarkable. Stuff happens and things are discovered too late some times. It's the silence that needs to be challenged and held to account. For a guy who claims (er, pretends) to be all about the little guy, Ford shows little sign of accountability with the large amounts of taxpayer money involved.

The Ottawa inquiry was useful not so much for its explanation of why the trams didn't work, as how the politicians meddled and made things worse. The Crosstown inquiry should reveal the same. It would also shed light in how the entire food chain - ML brass, ML Board, MOT and Premier/Cabinet - behaved. That's what needs correcting.

- Paul

I can assure you the private sector partner has as much if not more to do with it than anyone on the Metrolinx/MTO/Provincial side necessarily has.

The project was more complex than the consortium anticipated and they responded to the RFP with a significantly lower price than others. Whether that was a good faith miscalculation or they purposely underbid is unclear, but what is clear is they are placing the responsibility for covering that shortfall (be it funding or understanding of complexity ) at the feet of the taxpayer, which is what AFP is intended to prevent.

Any public statement regarding the status of the project or the details of delays which Metrolinx/the Province did not provide may have been for the purposes of reputational management but equally (and more likely) are to support their commercial, and indeed legal, position. If Metrolinx were to openly disclose detailed internal assessments about how far behind schedule the project was at various milestones or the specific reasons for added costs, they would create a legal vulnerability. This could be used by Crosslinx to argue that Metrolinx knew about certain delays or defects earlier than officially acknowledged and failed to act in a manner that could mitigate those issues. This, in turn, could lead to legal claims that Metrolinx itself breached certain oversight duties or contributed to the delays, thereby supporting any legal claims that Crosslinx might make.

Conversely, if Metrolinx were to take Crosslinx's own assessments at face value and publish them, Metrolinx would then accept the risk that they are overly optimistic or end up changing, legal liability for Metrolinx could emerge if those published timelines turn out to be inaccurate and stakeholders rely on them to their detriment (e.g. TTC starts paying staff to operate a line that isn't generating revenue).

If transparency is the only issue we need to get to the bottom of, I'll save you the inquiry: either due to oversight or because a technical advisor advised that a rigorous accountability/reporting mechanism that could be made public created a risk for the private sector that would disincentivize proponents from bidding on the project, so it was not included as a requirement in the project's output specifications. Or, possibly, it was and Crosslinx negotiated its removal prior to financial close. That's it. Even if this was an element that was identified later on as having a benefit and Metrolinx sought to add it the likelihood of Crosslinx accepting it would be slim and they wouldn't have any obligation contractually to accept it.

I know that many on here want to chalk issues of delay and cost overruns to either gross incompetence or some form of conspiracy aimed at profit maximization via cronyism but it comes down to a series of assumptions being made about the private sector partner's willingness or ability to deliver a quality outcome and a lack of preparedness for the fact they were only ever going to deliver what the letter of the contract mandated at *most*.

That said, AFP is no longer being treated as a panacea. Rather, in my view, the private sector is being approached with a good deal more skepticism on recent projects and that skepticism is finding its way into contracts in a way that better protects the public's interests.
 
Any public statement regarding the status of the project or the details of delays which Metrolinx/the Province did not provide may have been for the purposes of reputational management but equally (and more likely) are to support their commercial, and indeed legal, position. If Metrolinx were to openly disclose detailed internal assessments about how far behind schedule the project was at various milestones or the specific reasons for added costs, they would create a legal vulnerability. This could be used by Crosslinx to argue that Metrolinx knew about certain delays or defects earlier than officially acknowledged and failed to act in a manner that could mitigate those issues. This, in turn, could lead to legal claims that Metrolinx itself breached certain oversight duties or contributed to the delays, thereby supporting any legal claims that Crosslinx might make.

Conversely, if Metrolinx were to take Crosslinx's own assessments at face value and publish them, Metrolinx would then accept the risk that they are overly optimistic or end up changing, legal liability for Metrolinx could emerge if those published timelines turn out to be inaccurate and stakeholders rely on them to their detriment (e.g. TTC starts paying staff to operate a line that isn't generating revenue).

This is actually one of the beefs I have with how ML has managed its P3's. They rely on litigation as an early and priority method of resolving issues and disputes.

A process that assumes litigation early in what is structured as a 30-year contract is unsound on its face. It's a bit like marital prenups. They are a good idea, and many people choose to sign them.... but if a couple are already calling for their lawyers to enforce the prenup on the third day of their honeymoon, it bodes ill for the marriage.

There is a time and a place for litigation and for claims processes. They should not be allowed, however, to take precedence over open discussion and disclosure of the facts. Lawyers may hate to lose, but if ML is in fact negligent then I see nothing wrong with this being revealed and ML taking its lumps. It may be painful, but binging the facts forward ensures issues are managed effectively.

Further - The moment the lawyers enter the picture, they will advise against releasing any information, out of an abundance of caution. That may be normal legal advice, but it destroys the entire premise of transparency and accountability to the public. More importantly, it removes any incentive for ML or the contractor to have open and constructive discussion so that problems are investigated and corrected promptly. With both Crosstown and Finch we have seen how litigation and legal wrangling has led to delays in completing the work, simply because the lawyers are inclined to gamesmanship. And, it's just too easy for ML to hide behind this as an excuse for not owning up to things.

If transparency is the only issue we need to get to the bottom of, I'll save you the inquiry: either due to oversight or because a technical advisor advised that a rigorous accountability/reporting mechanism that could be made public created a risk for the private sector that would disincentivize proponents from bidding on the project, so it was not included as a requirement in the project's output specifications. Or, possibly, it was and Crosslinx negotiated its removal prior to financial close. That's it. Even if this was an element that was identified later on as having a benefit and Metrolinx sought to add it the likelihood of Crosslinx accepting it would be slim and they wouldn't have any obligation contractually to accept it.

A minimum level of transparency particularly around basic matters of project scope, progress against scope, spend to date versus results achieved, milestones met, etc.can be agreed to without scaring away the contractor or giving away the ship legally. Should a dispute arise, there can be basic disclosure that the issue has arisen, and a very basic statement of the position of each party can be disclosed without destroying either party's legal strategy.

Contractors need not disclose commercially sensitive matters, but ultimately they want the business and imposing some responsibilities for disclosure on them is quite reasonable. At the end of the day, they want the business.

Issues can be discussed and solutions negotiated in private, and settlements may be without prejudice or admission of blame, but letting the parties run away with secrecy to the extent that we have seen with these processes is partly how things fall apart.

- Paul
 
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