Red October
Senior Member
Wait, what? So it won't be GRT?
I guess that means it won't be covered under what the WatCard provides..
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Metrolinx: Bombardier Flexity Freedom & Alstom Citadis Spirit LRVs
- Thread starter W. K. Lis
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Wait, what? So it won't be GRT?
I guess that means it won't be covered under what the WatCard provides..
dowlingm
Senior Member
Dublin's LUAS LRT is operated by Veolia and has a better reputation than the state run buses and trains. Yes there are horror stories elsewhere but if public-owned transit was sunshine and roses nobody would suggest PPPs anyway. I do think cities need better contracts with private partners, particularly given how the Toronto Street Furniture contract Miller saddled us with is turning out.
W. K. Lis
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Metrolinx Light Rail Vehicles
Since Waterloo (and maybe other regions) may come on board the order for light rail vehicles along with Toronto, it would make sense to alter the name of the thread from "Transit City" to "Metrolinx". Can't seem to find the controls to do so.
Since Waterloo (and maybe other regions) may come on board the order for light rail vehicles along with Toronto, it would make sense to alter the name of the thread from "Transit City" to "Metrolinx". Can't seem to find the controls to do so.
mpd618
Active Member
It's to be a design-build-operate-finance-maintain (DBFOM) P3, with 30 years for the DBFM part and potentially only 10 for the initial operations. After that, it would be possible for GRT to take over operations.
Fares would all be set and collected by the Region of Waterloo, and integrated with GRT.
W. K. Lis
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Videos of the Bombardier Flexity Freedeom model:
[video=youtube;-kLl84mAPDY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kLl84mAPDY[/video]
[video=youtube;MHsRTVzDbUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHsRTVzDbUg[/video]
Toronto is the very first launch city through Metrolinx for the Bombardier Flexity Freedom.
[video=youtube;-kLl84mAPDY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kLl84mAPDY[/video]
[video=youtube;MHsRTVzDbUg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHsRTVzDbUg[/video]
Toronto is the very first launch city through Metrolinx for the Bombardier Flexity Freedom.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
Click on this link to get to Stephen Rees's blog on the Bombardier Flexity Freedom mock-up.
And the brochure in PDF form downloadable from this link.
And the brochure in PDF form downloadable from this link.
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nfitz
Superstar
Might be the first sale, but according to the current schedule we'll see them in service in 2020, while Kitchener-Waterloo will see them in operation in 2017.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
we will see them in service in 2018 on the finch line.
nfitz
Superstar
Last week the McGuinty government announced a further delay to both Finch and Eglinton, with Finch not opening until 2020 (it was 2019 when the announced the last delay in April), and Sheppard delayed until 2021 (2018 in the delay they announced in April).
unimaginative2
Senior Member
Those are gorgeous streetcars. I love them. So bright and airy with their big windows!
W. K. Lis
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Markster
Senior Member
Interesting... I don't think Edmonton has decided on the vehicles for the southwest LRT, so I imagine Bombardier is going to be putting their best foot forward.
dowlingm
Senior Member
With no Buy Canada analog to Buy America and Siemens' existing foothold I doubt much will change. I may be exaggerating a little but for Albertans (even PCs as opposed to Reform/Wildrose/FedTories) isn't buying Bombardier/Ontario basically giving money to Eastern B@stards who should be freezing in the dark instead?
Interesting that BBD did not choose to visit Calgary during Stampede (or at least not mentioning it on twitter)
W. K. Lis
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drum118
Superstar
Based on what I have seen to date, Stadler LRV in Craydon, UK is the best one I have seen so far.
Other than the front/end wheel area, all the seats are regular seating with no stepup. The front/end are raise, but have a sloping ramp to the seating area.
Due to the poor internet service over here in Europe to date, I have not been able to up load both video and photos of Stadler car. Craydon only took delivery of the new 5 section car only a few months ago.
Other than the front/end wheel area, all the seats are regular seating with no stepup. The front/end are raise, but have a sloping ramp to the seating area.
Due to the poor internet service over here in Europe to date, I have not been able to up load both video and photos of Stadler car. Craydon only took delivery of the new 5 section car only a few months ago.