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Mayor's plea for aid gets cool reception

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Mayor's plea for aid gets cool reception

Ottawa, Queen's Park turn down demand for cash
Miller wants share of sales taxes to bring $450M


Nov. 15, 2006. 01:00 AM
JIM BYERS
CITY HALL BUREAU

Fresh mandate. Same stalemate.

Hours after his election victory on Monday night, Mayor David Miller yesterday repeated his demand that Ottawa and Queen's Park give the city a portion of federal and provincial taxes. Within hours, federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty flatly rebuffed Miller.

Miller wants 1 cent from either the provincial sales tax or federal GST generated in Toronto, which is worth about $450 million a year. He wants to use the money to build rapid transit lines, help the homeless and deal with potential recessions.

"Prime Minister (Stephen) Harper has promised to cut the GST by another cent," the mayor said.

"If there's room to cut, there's room to share. And what I'm saying is that cent that he's cutting from the goods and services tax should come to municipalities across this country."

Miller said he'll make sure the issue is "front and centre in the upcoming provincial and federal elections. Because if people stick together, like they did last night, they're a voice that cannot be ignored."

But it didn't take the folks in Ottawa and at Queen's Park long to pour ice water on Miller's red-hot rhetoric.

Flaherty told the Toronto Star in a phone interview from Regina that it's time for Miller to get his own financial house "in order" before asking other governments for extra cash.

Ottawa has committed hundreds of millions of dollars in additional funds to the GTA, but the more Toronto gets, the more the mayor wants, he said.

Flaherty said Miller ought to be a "chastened mayor" because he did not win a bigger mandate from voters on Monday and, as such, "would try to get his own house in order before he starts asking other" levels of government "to subsidize him."

Premier Dalton McGuinty said he'll stand with Toronto as it seeks a portion of federal tax revenue, but the city shouldn't expect to get a free reach into the provincial piggy bank.

"I'd love to be in a position to be able to dole out additional revenues to our municipal partners, but I'm not," McGuinty told reporters. "What we can do is stand shoulder to shoulder — not just our municipal partners but the business community and the social sector as well — as we approach the federal government and continue to make our case."

The province has already taken steps to improve the city's bottom line by giving it $160 million in gas-tax revenue, uploading some public health and ambulance costs, and giving Toronto the power to raise additional revenues by taxing such things as cigarettes and alcohol, the premier said.

Ontario says the new taxing powers could be worth between $50 million and $300 million. The city insists they might bring in $40 million to $50 million a year, which isn't nearly enough to cover the expected $500 million budget shortfall for next year.

Told of McGuinty's comments, Miller offered a tight smile and played nice.

"Well, I'd say I'm glad the conversation's started. I look forward to working with Premier McGuinty. He's been a great supporter of Toronto."

Harper has said he'll cut the federal goods and services tax by another percentage point. Miller said that money should go to municipalities.

"We need a share of the sales tax or other revenues that grow with economic growth and we need a national transit strategy," Miller said.

With a provincial election set for Oct. 4, 2007, McGuinty and Progressive Conservative Leader John Tory are jockeying for support in Toronto, which will have 23 of the 107 seats up for grabs in the expanded Legislature.

Federally, the minority Conservative government has no seats in Toronto and Harper likely needs a breakthrough here to win a majority in an election expected next year.

Continuing his efforts to strike a new deal for Toronto is just one of the items on Miller's list of things to do between now and the next civic election in 2010. He also has to convince the federal government to commit about $700 million to extend the Downsview subway line to York University.

The mayor said yesterday that passing a lobbyist registry for city hall, a campaign pledge from 2003 that fell apart when council turned down the idea in September, also is a high priority.

Under the new City of Toronto Act, expected to take effect early next year, the city has been given unprecedented powers to levy new taxes. The new leeway is appreciated, a spokesman for Miller said, but the most the city could raise from various fees is about $50 million a year.

As much as Miller has on his plate, he's made it clear that grabbing a slice of the federal-provincial tax pie is his priority.

"If there's an economic downturn in the not-too-distant future, the city budget's in very difficult shape," he warned. "The costs we bear are unlike any major city in this country. Montreal doesn't have to pay for social services, for example. When there's a downturn, those costs can be enormous."

Dave Barrow, the newly elected mayor of Richmond Hill, said Miller has his full support on the financing question.

"Anywhere transit is successful — Vancouver, Montreal, a lot of places in the United States — it has to have federal partners."

Larry O'Connor, mayor-elect of Brock Township in northern Durham Region, said a share of the sales tax could be used to improve the gravel roads that run through much of the region's rural areas.

"Smaller municipalities just do not have the financial resources as it is to maintain infrastructure," he said.

Outgoing Oakville Mayor Ann Mulvale accused Miller of "conveniently pulling out one option" on election night "when we need to look at all the options."

She said it makes just as much sense to persuade the province to remove the cost of social services from the property-tax bill.

With files from Kerry Gillespie, Les Whittington, Robert Benzie, Jessica Leeder, Richard Brennan and Stan Josey



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I agree with Ann Mulvale. It makes much more sense to remove social services from the property-tax-funded services. It works out to about the same amount, too.
 
Flaherty said Miller ought to be a "chastened mayor" because he did not win a bigger mandate from voters on Monday and, as such, "would try to get his own house in order before he starts asking other" levels of government "to subsidize him."

Perhaps someone should remind Mr. Flaherty what percentage of the popular vote the Conservatives has received the last election, when it comes to the issue of mandate. In addition, his level of government is the one that benefitted most from the process of downloading.

unimaginative:

Except that having access to income tax is a far more stable source of income. It's far easieir for future governments to download services again to the municpal level than getting rid of tax transfers. Also, I think Oakville stand to benefit more from the elimination of social services pooling.

AoD
 
Hah! You're exactly right about Flaherty, AoD. I'm also baffled by the claim that he didn't get an increased mandate. His percentage of the vote went up close to fifteen points and he got nearly a hundred thousand more votes.

I think the era of mass downloading is over. The sales tax revenue is also likely to decline during a recession, while social service spending would soar. It could bankrupt a city like Toronto if we had a situation like the early 90s. While Oakville would benefit from the elimination of pooling, I'm sure it still spends proportionally far less than Toronto on social services.
 
Although, wouldn't Ontario cities still be left with revenue that doesn't grow with the economy if that were the case?
 
While Oakville would benefit from the elimination of pooling, I'm sure it still spends proportionally far less than Toronto on social services.

The city of Toronto has been calling for the elimination of pooling as well, so I don't see what your point is.

Municpal property taxes alone cannot support provincial health and social programs, it's as simple as that. Toronto would save hundreds of million of dollars each if these costs were uploaded.

I don't know about Oakville, but Mississauga is spending $180 million a year for health and social services that are a Provincial responsibility (and this includes $37 million a year to Toronto), while Toronto spends $700 million per year.

So Mississauga is actually spending more per capita on health and social services than Toronto is.
 
The report that came form that GTA grassroots organization (I forget their name but they got a lot of publicity a few weeks back for the report) shows how the average waiting time for social housing in Toronto is about 12 years, while Peel has an average waiting time of 22 years. It's unjust to begin with that either region has to have waiting times, but the epidemic in Peel is only going to grow worst with the continued pooling of Peel money to TO.
 
Although, wouldn't Ontario cities still be left with revenue that doesn't grow with the economy if that were the case?

Good point, but at least it won't be left with revenue that shrinks with the economy like the sales tax. Actually, Toronto property tax assessments have been growing way faster than the economy.
 
^thats only because commercial taxes are shrinking

Its wierd how Mississauga is debt free and hasn't borrowed money for some big amount of years, yet people are complaining that too much of Mississauga's money is going to TO (which is apparently $500,000,000 in the hole).
 
"Anywhere transit is successful — Vancouver, Montreal, a lot of places in the United States — it has to have federal partners."

European Capitols- London Paris etc.. do as well. I'm not sure why securing Federal funding for our ailing transit system is such a problem for us. I don't get it.
 
Because the provinces won't allow it. No province would ever allow the federal government to have a direct relationship with cities. All money has to be funneled through them, like the gas tax.
 
The best scenario Miller and Co. have for additional federal funding is a new minority government (with Rae at the helm) and NDP to back them up.
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Inside City Hall
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Miller's demands get frosty response from Flaherty

Federal Finance Minister Jim Flaherty, bristling at Mayor David Miller's demand this week for a chunk of the GST revenues sucked out of Toronto, offered his own analysis of the Blond One's victory.

In addition to urging the mayor to quit begging for money, be happy he is getting almost $5-million in federal gas taxes and "go about the business of managing the budget of the City of Toronto," Mr. Flaherty laid out some other alleged misdeeds by the city in an interview with The Globe and Mail.

"Family-owned businesses in the City of Toronto that are not unionized are not permitted to bid on City of Toronto work," he said. (City officials dispute the assertion.)

And the socialist hordes running city hall are guilty of even worse crimes, the Finance Minister added: "We reduced the GST by a full percentage point effective July 1, except for the golf courses owned by the City of Toronto. The City of Toronto did not pass that savings on to consumers and taxpayers . . . and I was very disappointed in that."

Mr. Moscoe, we presume?

The election's voting machines are still warm, but the omnipresent Howard Moscoe, who pledged this year to "consider" not standing to return as Toronto Transit Commission chairman after the Nov. 13 vote, says he still wants the job.

"That was in a moment of weakness," he said of his promise to reconsider his role, which came in the June aftermath of the wildcat TTC strike, when city council's conservative guns were out for him.

While acknowledging that his future is up to the mayor, Mr. Moscoe said he hopes to continue as chairman for at least a few more years.

And already, the impish chairman was back to his old tricks, after calling a federal announcement of $1.5-million for TTC security cameras -- instead of the $35-million it had asked for -- a "slap in the face."

Mr. Moscoe has enlisted TTC staff in one of his trademark schemes -- designing yellow stickers that would read something to the effect of: "Site of planned security camera, pending federal funding." He would like to see them posted in subway stations, in places where the TTC wants cameras.

His fellow TTC commissioners must approve any such shenanigans, of course.
 
"And the socialist hordes running city hall are guilty of even worse crimes, the Finance Minister added: "We reduced the GST by a full percentage point effective July 1, except for the golf courses owned by the City of Toronto. The City of Toronto did not pass that savings on to consumers and taxpayers . . . and I was very disappointed in that.""

Ooooh, A full percentage point cut in GST... think of the savings consumers could have had at the city... they could have gone on a building permit shopping spree!

Man, what a red herring. City services have rounded-off prices with GST included. Such as a price of $6.00 ($5.27 + 31c GST + 42c PST). It would be just as accurate to say that they're socialist hoardes at the Sun for not cutting their newspaper price from 50c to 49c or vending machine operator committed a crime for not chopping the chocolate bar price from $1.50 to $1.48.

BTW, when did Sue-Ann Levy start writing for the Globe?
 
be happy he is getting almost $5-million in federal gas taxes
Woah! $5 million! i'm shrouded in riches...
but seriously, all $5 million can buy is an EA, basically.
 
5 million will get you a subway stop and a smack on the ass. Ultimately the TTC needs "long-term" predictable financing to do a good job. The TTC is behind other world transit systems in this regard- they have a marginal relationship with the Fed government. Get a Fed deal in the coming years- only then we'll be on par to move forward. We're behind folks.
 

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