mcbg1
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Depends on your definition of crime. I literally see a shoplifter pretty much every time I go to the Dollarama on Front E.
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Mayor Olivia Chow's Toronto
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Northern Light
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It does not depend on your definition of crime. The stated fact is that the overall crime rate, and a range of different crimes have declined significantly in Toronto in the last year or two, this is fact.
Yes, some types of crime are either holding steady or up somewhat. Shoplifting is likely chief among these, along with porch piracy. That's not ok, its in need of attention, but it doesn't alter the fact that crime is down.
mcbg1
Active Member
lol I just got back from Union Station and saw a crazy junkie openly steal a box from the Laduree cart and run away and then sit on the floor of the subway station opening it up while screaming to himself. No security ever pulled up.
picard102
Senior Member
What is this supposed to prove? Did someone say no crime or petty theft happens in the city anymore?
mcbg1
Active Member
The drug and mental health crisis has gotten worse under her watch and those people are allowed to commit crimes all over the city with no consequences
picard102
Senior Member
It's gotten worse under Doug Ford's watch.
Feel free to link me to a similar complaint you made in the Mayor John Tory's thread, as this isn't a new issue since Chow.
So again, as stated by others, "Depends on your definition of crime" is bs.
mcbg1
Active Member
It has gotten worse under her watch and that is a fact but sure you can deflect and put some of that blame on Ford. He should have gotten rid of those ‘’safe’’injection sites much sooner.
txlseries4
Active Member
This is the definition of confirmation bias lol
Shoplifting is down 9.8% YTD btw but doubt that'll impact your opinion
mcbg1
Active Member
It increased by 14% in 2024 according to statistics Canada. Unlikely it’s gone down since given the state of the city and its lack of law enforcement.
Full Metal Junkie
Active Member
So the fact that addicts are now injecting themselves unsafely, did that make things better? Solve any problems?
mcbg1
Active Member
Addicts will be addicts regardless. Making it “safer” for them only means enabling their use. Forced treatment or real penal consequences is the only solution.
Mihairokov
Senior Member
Weird because i'm frequently at this location and have never witnessed outright shoplifting. If it was as bad as you try to claim they wouldn't have installed self-checkouts, like how they haven't installed any at Sherbourne & Queen.
I've seen more police presence at the LCBO next door, frankly, but that's an aside to the confirmation bias you're trying to pass off as evidence.
Full Metal Junkie
Active Member
Ah, yes. Because "war on drugs" is the solution to the problem that never failed anywhere it was tried. Not even once! Uh-huh...
I hear they implemented a lot of anti-addict initiatives in Afghanistan ever since Taliban came to power. You may consider moving there, experience living in the addict-free urban spaces for yourself.
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picard102
Senior Member
It's not deflection, it's his responsibility to ensure health care is provided.
That you only want to blame Chow shows that you just don't like Chow and are trying to blame her for your imagined issues. Just be upfront.
mcbg1
Active Member
Right and giving free drugs and letting druggies use drugs has worked so well in cities where it’s been happening