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Lost Toronto Hotels

Ahh, the Derby ... a really old time bar, if ever there was one ... here's two shots, from June 2, 1988, shortly after the bar closed pending redevelopment of the site. One shows the aging neon sign (still working at the time? ... I seem to recall that it was still working ... and that it was pinkish in colour, or maybe orange?) ... and one clearly indentifying the "Men's Entrance" (I think the "Ladies & Escorts" entrance was around the corner, on the Parliament St side of the building).

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I’d forgotten how working class an establishment the Derby was. I wonder who their clientele would have been, back in the day? I don’t imagine there was all that much residential development around there, but I could be wrong. I wonder if it was a working man’s bar, for the labourers at the port, the distillery and the surrounding warehouses on King, Front etc?
 
^ You mean the ones in the link below? I think the story is, that the church next door owns them and has wanted to tear them down for redevelopment but the city wouldn't allow it and they've just sat there for I think over 20 years. It's amazing they haven't fallen down yet.

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.652906,-79.362898&spn=0,0.001359&t=h&z=20&layer=c&cbll=43.652914,-79.362885&panoid=z1FqZomcx2m6xRM5KtWp2A&cbp=12,146.45,,0,3.85

Is that right? Wow!

Well I suppose that if St. James Cathedral can pave over much of its old burying ground with the bones of its parishioners now located six feet under a parking lot, it should be no surprise that Little Trinity couldn't care less about that historic structure.
 
Is that right? Wow!

Well I suppose that if St. James Cathedral can pave over much of its old burying ground with the bones of its parishioners now located six feet under a parking lot, it should be no surprise that Little Trinity couldn't care less about that historic structure.

Actually the Little Trinity Church has a plan and most of the $$$ necessary to fix these sad houses up. There's more on this in the Corktown neighbourhood thread; among the comments is one I posted in December 2009....

"One of my neighbours recently wrote to Little Trinity Church asking about the houses discussed a few posts above. She received the response below, which may be of interest.

"We are always thankful when our friends and neighbours engage us in discussions about community issues and in particular, the situation concerning the state of the townhouses. I'm pleased to tell you that we are well underway with a building renewal program which will see a restoration and renovation of the Victorian townhouses at 399 King Street. Beginning in January we will be meeting regularly with our architects and engineers to prepare detailed plans and specifications for the project. Concurrently with that process we will be meeting with the various municipal departments to secure the necessary permits with a view to beginning construction in the spring of 2011. I appreciate that 2011 seems like a long time away but the lead time required for a $3,500,000.00 project is necessarily lengthy.

To date the congregation of Little Trinity Church has pledged approximately $1,500,000.00 to fund the project. The Diocese of Toronto has given us a grant of $1,000,000.00 toward it as well. We will use 2010 to raise the remainder of the funds necessary to meet our budget and to complete the preliminary work leading up to construction.

While I cannot comment specifically yet I can tell you that the Property Renewal Team has plans to conduct a series of town hall meeting for the community to let people know what we're doing. This won't happen until the toward the middle/end of next year. We simply don't have sufficient information available at this time to provide a meaningful presentation."
 
A 3.5 million dollar renewal sounds pretty elaborate. I can't wait to see what the plans are.
As a side note, the PoMo loft building thing that replaced the Derby is dubbed "the Derby" as well. I don't hate the new building, but I don't love the dub. I think that if you tear down a piece of architecture move on and do your own thing.
 
Actually, I think the new name was meant as positive tribute to the old--and IIRC the new Derby was itself quite positively reviewed 20 plus years ago...
 
I actually like the scale and height of the new "Derby", and the details of this kind architecture continue to grow on me. But naming a building after the building its replacing, although well intentioned, seems in poor taste to me. Imagine they named that Shoppers building up at Yonge and Church the Morrissey, or that hotel they're building where Walnut Hall was, the Walnut Hall. Not cool. It's like a facadectomy without the facade.
 
Actually the Little Trinity Church has a plan and most of the $$$ necessary to fix these sad houses up. There's more on this in the Corktown neighbourhood thread; among the comments is one I posted in December 2009....

"One of my neighbours recently wrote to Little Trinity Church asking about the houses discussed a few posts above. She received the response below, which may be of interest.

"We are always thankful when our friends and neighbours engage us in discussions about community issues and in particular, the situation concerning the state of the townhouses. I'm pleased to tell you that we are well underway with a building renewal program which will see a restoration and renovation of the Victorian townhouses at 399 King Street. Beginning in January we will be meeting regularly with our architects and engineers to prepare detailed plans and specifications for the project. Concurrently with that process we will be meeting with the various municipal departments to secure the necessary permits with a view to beginning construction in the spring of 2011. I appreciate that 2011 seems like a long time away but the lead time required for a $3,500,000.00 project is necessarily lengthy.

To date the congregation of Little Trinity Church has pledged approximately $1,500,000.00 to fund the project. The Diocese of Toronto has given us a grant of $1,000,000.00 toward it as well. We will use 2010 to raise the remainder of the funds necessary to meet our budget and to complete the preliminary work leading up to construction.

While I cannot comment specifically yet I can tell you that the Property Renewal Team has plans to conduct a series of town hall meeting for the community to let people know what we're doing. This won't happen until the toward the middle/end of next year. We simply don't have sufficient information available at this time to provide a meaningful presentation."

That is terrific news. I unreservedly withdraw my cynical comment of above.

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Sorry to bring up a long buried thread, but I was watching The Fugitive tonight, in which the final scene takes place on the roof of the Hilton Chicago, which reminded me of the Ford Hotel, which led to me searching for pictures/articles about it, which led me here! It's too bad none of the pictures of the original post still appear, I wish I had gone through this thread when it was first around.

I almost do wish that I was around to see these "grand" old hotels that used to fill the city, especially ones like the Queen's Hotel, Ford Hotel and the Prince George. Reading about the Ford Hotel really makes it sound like it would be the setting of a Film Noire, seems like it was quite the sketchy place.
 
yes its a drag i lost all those photos...i might try to reconstruct some of those old posts...
i remember Toronto Life had a fantastic article on the dying days of the Ford, in the early 70's complete with noirish shots of the lobby...
anyway, here are a few images:

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Of the hotels built as Ford Hotels, the Erie and Montreal buildings still stand. The Montreal and Buffalo hotels were similar in size and design as the Toronto location. The Montreal Ford Hotel is now offices at 1425 René-Lévesque West, modified:

https://maps.google.ca/?ll=45.49496...NnAiRJAcHprm7MiNSlwfw&cbp=12,303.14,,0,-21.93

The Erie location was smaller, but similar, and still stands as an apartment building downtown.
https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=42.13...0.084729&spn=0.001211,0.001929&num=1&t=h&z=19

The Rochester hotel still stands, but wasn't built as a Ford Hotel.
 

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