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Looking that those list, the first 5 Canadian cites have RT with Toronto including Mississauga and Brampton. Both Mississauga and Brampton should be listed on their own as they are near 800,000. York Region has An BRT system.Due to Canadian cities being much smaller than the USA cities, London is currently the 11th largest city.If it were in the USA, it would be around # 30.
List of United States cities by population - Wikipedia
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When we look at the USA's top 10+ cities, most have a rail RT, with some even having a commuter rail like GO going to them.
When we look at similar sized cities, Wefind many that might have some sort of BRT, but not much else.
For Jacksonville:
Wait, Cities below London? Do you mean they have a smaller population? Because I'm sorry but Atlanta is a monolithic city that traditionally rivals Toronto in terms of size and population. The only way that's true is if you somehow only stick to strict city limits and don't include the Metro area (which for Atlanta is over 6 million!). Same applies to cities like Cleveland that has an urban area of almost 2 million, and Baltimore is a 2.8M metro area that's sandwiched right in between 2 other massive cities of Washington DC and Philly. This is before bringing up the fact in the case of Cleveland and Baltimore, these are cities whose heydays are well behind them, and their metro systems were built during a more optimistic time for their cities, before they had massive exoduses and declines. Regardless, these are cities that are more comparable to cities like Vancouver and Montreal, definitely not something puny like London.
Look at the list for population as that what I am going by. If you include the region, yes it is larger.
I get that's what you did, but my point is that's an awful way of finding cities to compare London with. I specifically highlight Atlanta because the MARTA network is a regional metro system which was meant to be a Hybrid between Metro and Regional Rail, with the ultimate goal of serving the whole greater Atlanta area (granted it never that far from Atlanta because Southern US politics). Keeping in mind even just the population of the urban area is a fundamental piece of context that's important to remember when doing such comparisons.
Funny thing is, Atlanta has a metro and street car. The MARTA and the Atlanta Streetcar.
It's a shame.
The city population is worthless in US conversations. It would be like talking about our (Toronto) transit, but only based on the population of the pre-1967 City of Toronto.
london's fatal mistake was to not build an urban expressway system to take traffic off of local roads. Cross-city traffic needs to battle it across the city on local streets which just drives up congestion and makes for a much more unpleasant local environment and makes it more challenging to build anything but mega-arterials focused on car movement.
I think it's interesting that not building urban expressways and still switching to personal vehicular transport modes and suburbanization results in the worst of both worlds.
Yup. It's the opposite of the Netherlands which actually has a large number of urban expressways through it's cities to shift car traffic away from areas with pedestrians. It ends up working better for everyone.
