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fiendishlibrarian
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Hey Ed, your old house is up for private sale.
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Ed007Toronto
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I'll offer $19,000 for it. That's what my parents paid for it in 1969.
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samplain
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agree with too much...and glad to know more about Zanta.
but, city at-arms-length for me.
but, city at-arms-length for me.
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Chuck100
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Given that this is the urban Toronto forum, I thought that I'd be given a harder time with my comments. I'm very surprised to see that so many members, if not the majority, feel that the negative aspects of living downtown are strong enough that they choose not to live there.
It seems like most of us live in urban/suburban transition zones like midtown, Bloor West, Parkdale, or the Beaches. They are fairly dense, transit oriented, and pedestrian friendly, but they are also green, quiet, and spacious. By land area, those areas are 75% detached housing. Yet at the same time, high rises are well enough placed that most people still actually live in apartments.
If one could argue that we are more enlightened than the average person when it comes to city planning, I think that this thread sends a very strong message to city planners in terms of how the GTA could develop sustainably.
It seems like most of us live in urban/suburban transition zones like midtown, Bloor West, Parkdale, or the Beaches. They are fairly dense, transit oriented, and pedestrian friendly, but they are also green, quiet, and spacious. By land area, those areas are 75% detached housing. Yet at the same time, high rises are well enough placed that most people still actually live in apartments.
If one could argue that we are more enlightened than the average person when it comes to city planning, I think that this thread sends a very strong message to city planners in terms of how the GTA could develop sustainably.
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esplanade guy
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It seems like most of the urban Toronro people are suburbanites at heart. Anybody who is a true urban lover would gladly put up with the occasional problem to enjoy the benifits of downtown life. Imagine, being scared off by homless beggers. I'm sure Manhattanites would have a good laugh at that. Anybody who really loves the downtown lifestyle, will not abandon downtown Toronto so easilly because there is no alternative. Suburbanites retreat to the burbs and the people who appreciate the city centre will continue coming in droves. I live as downtown as you can get, and I won't be moving to the burbs, ever!
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ganjavih
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Urban doesn't necessarily equal downtown. I lived downtown for years and loved it but certain things like used condoms, the smell of urine in the summer and gangsta-wannabe thugs got on my nerves at times.
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esplanade guy
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Gangsta-wannabe thugs, in dt Toronto? LOL Have you been to Scarbourgh in the last 5 years? There's more wannabes in Scarbourgh Town Centre then you'll find in all of central Toronto.
As for condoms and urine, they don't even register on my radar. I like a bit of grit! The psychos, artists, beggers, suits, hookers, lawyers, homeless, eccentrics, homos, cops & robbers, they all have their place in the dt core and I think that makes it all the more interesting but I'm an artist and a radical homosexual, so I can appreciate the grittier side of life.
As for condoms and urine, they don't even register on my radar. I like a bit of grit! The psychos, artists, beggers, suits, hookers, lawyers, homeless, eccentrics, homos, cops & robbers, they all have their place in the dt core and I think that makes it all the more interesting but I'm an artist and a radical homosexual, so I can appreciate the grittier side of life.
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scarberiankhatru
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No...Scarborough has real thugs, not wannabe thugs.
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ganjavih
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Oh, okay, it makes sense now. I thought you were just a regular homosexual.
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Darkstar416
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I think some of us were just choosing to be quiet. :evilGiven that this is the urban Toronto forum, I thought that I'd be given a harder time with my comments. I'm very surprised to see that so many members, if not the majority, feel that the negative aspects of living downtown are strong enough that they choose not to live there.
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Ed007Toronto
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I'll second that.
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cdl42
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Ditto.
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andreapalladio
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Me three.
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TdotTrickyRicky
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There are degrees of urbanity and a city should cater to a diversity of tastes. When I think of the urban form GTA communities should aspire to I don't think about the core, rather the shoulder or satellite low and mid-rise neighbourhoods with densities of say 12,000 people per square km and vibrant commercial streets adjacent to quite leafy residential enclaves. You don't need to have any buildings over 3-storeys to accomplish this if you don't want. I fully support hyper-density in the core of downtown but this will always represent a niche life-style in the city.
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building babel
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The downtown towers look so pretty from across the Don valley, stretching north to Bloor and beyond like a great spine. From my Riverdale bedroom window at night I can see through the tall trees to the distant sign shining on Scotia Plaza. On quiet days I hear the Old City Hall bell tolling, and my thoughts turn to the fine young man who rings it. We are all connected to downtown, even if we don't actually live in the heart of it.