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Today.
Been like this for months and the extra few days above zero not going to do much. More like lack of manpower to do the work.
They have the road strip for the traffic light already, but see no footings for the poles for the lights. Will not help cars trying to get into Sunnyside loop like today. Coming out of the loop is no problem
504|304 Bus service resuming on Roncesvalles Avenue
Effective March 14, 2023
From link.
5 a.m. March 14, 2023 until May 2023
504 King bus service is resuming on Roncesvalles Avenue.504A King streetcars will divert both ways via Distillery Loop, Cherry Street, Sumach Street, King Street, Bathurst Street and Fleet Street, to Exhibition Loop.504B King streetcars will divert both ways via Broadview Station, Broadview Avenue, Queen Street East and King Street, to Bathurst Street.304 King buses will operate from Dundas West Station to Broadview Station, via Dundas Street West, Roncesvalles Avenue, King Street, Queen Street East and Broadview Avenue.504 King Replacement buses will operate as follows:
- Westbound: from York Street, west on King Street, north on Roncesvalles Avenue and north on Dundas Street West, to Dundas West Station.
- Eastbound: from Dundas West Station, south on Dundas Street West, south on Roncesvalles Avenue, east on King Street, south on Church Street, west on Wellington Street and north on York Street.
Customers should transfer between streetcars and replacement buses on King Street West, east of Bathurst Street.
That's the plan, they need to fix the platforms on Roncys.
Besides the platform upgrades noted by @DSC there's also the wiring which they seem to have finally decided to upgrade, as opposed to sometime during the past 2 years when they could have done it west of Dufferin, and last year during the Shaw intersection work when the Dufferin to Bathurst section wasn't being used by streetcars.
The curve was gone on my last visited and starting to string the support wires across the road, Most of it to all of it should be strung now by right. Dowling going east still needs to be done from what I saw in Feb.
This post really needs to be corrected. They meant March 14 to March 25 NOT May.504|304 Bus service resuming on Roncesvalles Avenue
Effective March 14, 2023
From link.
5 a.m. March 14, 2023 until May 2023
504 King bus service is resuming on Roncesvalles Avenue.504A King streetcars will divert both ways via Distillery Loop, Cherry Street, Sumach Street, King Street, Bathurst Street and Fleet Street, to Exhibition Loop.504B King streetcars will divert both ways via Broadview Station, Broadview Avenue, Queen Street East and King Street, to Bathurst Street.304 King buses will operate from Dundas West Station to Broadview Station, via Dundas Street West, Roncesvalles Avenue, King Street, Queen Street East and Broadview Avenue.504 King Replacement buses will operate as follows:
- Westbound: from York Street, west on King Street, north on Roncesvalles Avenue and north on Dundas Street West, to Dundas West Station.
- Eastbound: from Dundas West Station, south on Dundas Street West, south on Roncesvalles Avenue, east on King Street, south on Church Street, west on Wellington Street and north on York Street.
Customers should transfer between streetcars and replacement buses on King Street West, east of Bathurst Street.
www.ttc.ca
Here is Steve Munro's piece: https://stevemunro.ca/2023/03/13/roncesvalles-finally-reopens/This post really needs to be corrected. They meant March 14 to March 25 NOT May.
As the following changes are happening:
504/304 King
• Overhead upgrades - Pantograph overhead installation
• Service adjustments
Pantograph overhead installation between Bathurst Street and King-Queen-Roncesvalles intersection will be completed. Streetcar service will operate on Pantograph between Dufferin Street and Shaw Street, which has the following benefits:
• More efficient heating and air conditioning system;
• Better vehicle performance;
• Fewer delays caused by disconnections from overhead wire
Streetcar service will be removed east of Bathurst Street, due to the start of overhead upgrade work on King Street between Bathurst Street and Queen Street East.
504 streetcar service will operate primarily on Queen Street, from Dufferin Gate Loop to Broadview Station via Dufferin Street, King Street West, Shaw Street, Queen Street and Broadview Avenue.
Replacement buses will operate via King Street:
• 504C from Dundas West Station to Distillery (Front/Cherry)
• 504D from Strachan Avenue to Broadview Avenue at Gerrard Street East
504 King buses and streetcars will continue to arrive every 10 minutes or sooner.
TTC service adjustments
Interesting given that that area is already pantograph compatible as 510 & 511 have long used King to enter service and they leave the yard with pantos up. I wonder if this is just so they can stagger the wire, but not sure why a shutdown is needed for something like that.
It is a bit puzzling but the new overhead is not only the new wires but the move to new (or more powerful) power sources so THAT may be what is still to be done. We also do not know if they are talking of a one week, one month or one year suspension of streetcars on King from Bathurst to the Don River - the heart of the route! EDIT: It may also be making the overhead pantos ONLY (the wires need to be staggered) - if it's this I cannot see why it needs a complete shut-down as they could surely do it overnight, block by block?
My understanding is that more power to the cars is mostly enabled by the change to 4/0 gauge contact wire and that the trolley pole can pull down just as much as the panto. Telling the wire gauge from street level is sadly not within my powers of observation. Swapping out the contact wire would explain why they would suspend service.
