Mississauga Hurontario-Main Line 10 LRT | ?m | ?s | Metrolinx

Allandale25 said:
Where was it ever mentioned there would be level crossings (IE with crossing gates)?
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Not that I am aware of. There was no elevated section noted during the EA, other than a possible new bridge for 403 that I recall.

If you are going to cross Hurontario and Sq One Dr at grade as plan now, need gates and going to piss off drivers doing so.
 
Why would gates be needed at all? Why not treat it as a signalized intersection like all the rest on the route?
 
drum118 said:
Not that I am aware of. There was no elevated section noted during the EA, other than a possible new bridge for 403 that I recall.

If you are going to cross Hurontario and Sq One Dr at grade as plan now, need gates and going to piss off drivers doing so.
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Shouldn't be afraid to install gates if they help get the light rail moving better.

Not sure why that would piss off drivers though. As an occasional driver, I always prefer clear rules and unambiguous signage, rather than second-guess what I am/am not supposed to be doing.
 
micheal_can said:
You clearly have never seen Vancouver's Skytrain. A full flyover would be great. And those stuck in traffic seeing the LRT whizzing by them might be more an incentive to leave the car at home.
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Indeed, elevated transit doesn't have to look ugly. It only looks ugly when built with no effort to make it look nice.

Here in GTA, we tend to erect dull concrete slabs, but that's not the case in many places around the world.
 
^ Sorry should have clarified, I meant mentioned by staff, consultants, the EA, the actual proposed design, etc. From people who have responded the answer is that it wasn't suggest by the project team and is not in any public document currently available.
 
The agenda for next week's Brampton Committee of Council meeting includes an updated LRT report from staff and revised recommendation. The deferred motion from the previous meeting and responses to questions also included.

(One big PDF file opens and you have use the bookmarks or scroll through to get to the LRT related pages.)

www.brampton.ca

Council Meetings & Agendas

Council Meetings & Agendas detail information
www.brampton.ca www.brampton.ca
 
Allandale25 said:
The agenda for next week's Brampton Committee of Council meeting includes an updated LRT report from staff and revised recommendation. The deferred motion from the previous meeting and responses to questions also included.

(One big PDF file opens and you have use the bookmarks or scroll through to get to the LRT related pages.)

www.brampton.ca

Council Meetings & Agendas

Council Meetings & Agendas detail information
www.brampton.ca www.brampton.ca
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interesting to see
 
It would be great to see it extended to to Brampton. It would be interesting if the northern terminus was only it for a few years while the extension was built.
 
^Some interesting comments elsewhere in that agenda about parking and potential triple tracking at GO Brampton.

- Paul
 
crs1026 said:
^Some interesting comments elsewhere in that agenda about parking and potential triple tracking at GO Brampton.

- Paul
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Indeed.

All Day 2 Way GO Transit:

All day, 2-way GO transit service in Brampton is important to the future growth of the
downtown and City at large. To achieve all day 2-way go service, a 3rd rail track is required to be added to the existing rail infrastructure within the CN rail corridor. The proposed location and development of the CFI at 8 and 14 Nelson Street West will not preclude the ability to provide all day, 2-way GO transit service. While the relocation of Metrolinx buildings within the CN rail corridor may be required, the existing corridor appears sufficient to accommodate a 3rd rail track.
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That's all very interesting. I did not know that the 1989 office building above the bus terminal was in such bad shape, but it makes sense, given the amount of times the parking garage had to be repaired, closing the bus terminal.

It's also interesting that the two older 1970s-era office buildings that Metrolinx vacated would be re-occupied. And that the new Centre for Innovation would go on the north side of Nelson, instead of the south side, where the old Loblaws store was (later H&R Block and that sketchy Mocca Cafe). I wonder if that's where a temporary bus terminal would go, as the businesses in that building were vacated.

It's really too bad the houses were all bought up now that Metrolinx isn't planning the surface lot in the short term.
 
From today's Brampton Council meeting:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1128728535886123008

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^ And here's the text of what actually passed:

CW219-2019

Whereas the Brampton Official Plan calls for higher-order transit on Main Street; Whereas on December 5, 2018, at Committee of Council, Members of Council unanimously endorsed that an LRT extension route as originally recommended be prioritized by Brampton staff, and be immediately restored as part of the Brampton Transit Network Plan;

Whereas staff were directed to revise the Brampton LRT Extension Study to make any updates to the Hurontario-Main Street Light Rail Transit (LRT) Environmental Assessment (EA), including study and consideration of an underground tunneling option;

Whereas staff have identified three Main Street route options, HMLRT TPAP approved, Main-George one-way loop, and tunneling as means to provide a northerly LRT extension on Main Street to the Brampton GO Station;

Whereas the three identified options are dependent on securing funding from federal and provincial governments, or other sources; Whereas a public release from Metrolinx said that the contract to build the Hurontario LRT could be written in a way to allow a further extension into Brampton, specifically, that there are provisions in the contract language to adapt to future changes or additions to the LRT, including a potential extension into Brampton;

Whereas Metrolinx has stated that any new changes or additions would follow the main build of the first phase and would be done according to a new schedule that will have to be agreed to with the winner of the Hurontario LRT contract (Project Co);

Whereas stopping the Hurontario LRT at a terminal on the south-side of Steeles Avenue, a major corridor for trucks, is less than ideal for transit riders from a safety perspective, as transit riders who need to transfer to/from the Brampton Gateway Terminal must make additional intersection crossings compared to a station on the north side.

Whereas on December 12, 2018, the Downtown Reimagined project was paused pending further work to reduce the uncertainty associated with project costs and the development of an implementation plan for the various projects in the downtown core; Whereas the EA study will enable staff the opportunity to combine the objectives for an extended LRT route and elements of the enhanced streetscaping for Downtown Reimagined where possible;

Therefore Be It Resolved That:

1. The report from Chris Duyvestyn, Director, Transportation Special Projects, Public Works & Engineering, dated December 18, 2018, to the Committee of Council Meeting of April 3, 2019, re: Budget Amendment and Recommendation Report: Hurontario-Main Street Light Rail Transit Extension Study and Related Transportation Initiatives - Wards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 & 8 (File IA.A (16-3130-101)), be received;

2. Recommendations 2, 3, 4 and 5 of the staff report be approved;

“2. That staff be directed to update the Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit Environmental Assessment study to include consideration for a Main-George One-Way Loop in addition to underground tunneling options and the original Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit approved route, and incorporate elements of the enhanced streetscaping for Downtown Reimagined where possible; and​
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3. That a budget amendment be approved in the amount of $1,000,000 to top-up Project #174115-001 – Light Rail Transit Extension study with funding of $1,000,000 from General Rate Stabilization Reserve; and
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4. That staff be directed to examine rapid transit on Kennedy Road, McLaughlin Road and Hurontario-Main Street north of Brampton GO to Mayfield Road/Highway 410 as part of the next update to the Brampton Transportation Master Plan; and​
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5. That staff report back to Committee of Council once further discussions with Metrolinx have progressed to define the scope of work for the Downtown Mobility Hub, and additional information is obtained about Metrolinx’s transit oriented development strategy for possible ways to build partnerships in Downtown Brampton.”​
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3. Staff be directed to report back to Council on relocating the proposed Hurontario LRT stop at Steeles Avenue from the south side to a location on the north side that provides the best possible integration with the Brampton Gateway Terminal in order to provide a safe, convenient and comfortable loading/unloading transit user experience while accommodating a northerly LRT extension to the Brampton GO Station;

4. The Mayor and Council immediately work to seek funding from the federal and provincial governments for the extension of the Hurontario LRT from Steeles Avenue to the Brampton GO Station, and proceed with the fully funded option.

A recorded vote was requested and the motion carried, unanimously, as follows:
Yea
Santos
Vicente
Whillans
Palleschi
Bowman
Dhillon
Medeiros
Williams
Fortini
Singh
Brown
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Original staff recommendation:

Recommendations:
1. That the report from Chris Duyvestyn, Director, Transportation Special Projects, Public Works & Engineering, dated December 18, 2018, to the Committee of Council Meeting of April 3, 2019, re: Budget Amendment and Recommendation Report: Hurontario-Main Street Light Rail Transit Extension Study and Related Transportation Initiatives - Wards 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7 & 8 (File IA.A (16-3130-101)), be received; and

2. That staff be directed to update the Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit Environmental Assessment study to include consideration for a Main-George One-Way Loop in addition to underground tunneling options and the original Hurontario-Main Light Rail Transit approved route, and incorporate elements of the enhanced streetscaping for Downtown Reimagined where possible; and

3. That a budget amendment be approved in the amount of $1,000,000 to top-up Project #174115-001 – Light Rail Transit Extension study with funding of $1,000,000 from General Rate Stabilization Reserve; and

4. That staff be directed to examine rapid transit on Kennedy Road, McLaughlin Road and Hurontario-Main Street north of Brampton GO to Mayfield Road/Highway 410 as part of the next update to the Brampton Transportation Master Plan; and

5. That staff report back to Committee of Council once further discussions with Metrolinx have progressed to define the scope of work for the Downtown Mobility Hub, and additional information is obtained about Metrolinx’s transit oriented development strategy for possible ways to build partnerships in Downtown Brampton.
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