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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

I suspect service increases are basically on hold until ONExpress takes over, then it'll come (relatively) quickly afterwards.
There needs to be some measure of service increase still to happen in order to have ONExpress be able to meet its contractual obligations. The contract calls for a certain level of service to be running on "Day 0", the day before the handover. The levels operated today are not there yet.

Dan
 
Sorry if this was posted already, but schedules for Niagara trains through West Harbour effective May 17 are up. (before, after)

Comparing trips 1960 (TO-bound) and 1977 (Niagara-bound) suggests, officially, a 7-8 minute time savings. Plus, two more Niagara trains stop at West Harbour now each day.
I'm happy to see the additional service to West Harbour. For myself, it still makes more sense to drive to Aldershot where I enjoy the benefit of all Lakeshore West trains from Hamilton GO, West Harbour, and Aldershot intersecting. The additional service frequency this offers is worth the drive.
 
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I suspect service increases are basically on hold until ONExpress takes over, then it'll come (relatively) quickly afterwards.
There were service increases earlier this year, so this shouldn't be a constraint, contractually.

There needs to be some measure of service increase still to happen in order to have ONExpress be able to meet its contractual obligations. The contract calls for a certain level of service to be running on "Day 0", the day before the handover. The levels operated today are not there yet.
That's good news! Do you know roughly what these might be?

It would be nice to see the rest of the Covid cuts restored - such as the weekday off-peak 2-directional 15-minute GO service on the Lakeshore.
 
Anecdotally it feels like there's been a lot of operator hiring. I saw a lot more trains slowly edging into platforms, and stopping and restarting 1 to 2 months ago ... than I've seen in a long time.

Hopefully whatever Metrolinx builds come with an automated system. That would reduce dwell times.
There are no CSA trainees right now, which means there are no new employees are being actively trained at the moment.
On the other hand there are 10 CTO and 8 QCTO trainees out right now, so people are continuing to move up within the company.
 
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I'm happy to see the additional service to West Harbour. For myself, it still makes more sense to drive to Aldershot where I enjoy the benefit of all Lakeshore West trains from Hamilton GO, West Harbour, and Aldershot intersecting. The additional service frequency this offers is worth the drive.
There are 40+ trains per day between Aldershot and Toronto, but only 3 trains per day to St. Catharines and Niagara. It is wild that they decided to keep stopping the 3 Niagara trains at Aldershot to benefit Aldershot-Toronto passengers at the expense of the Niagara passengers who have no other train options. (And West Harbour passengers who have half as many train options). Aldershot station provides very little value to people heading to/from Niagara now that Niagara trains can efficiently stop at Hamilton West Harbour.
 
What is the reason for the 4 hour headways after 4 pm on the Stouffville line on weekdays, and will anyone on the forum still be alive when this massive deficiency is finally corrected?
As noted by @urbancog the sidings are 30 minutes apart, which only permits 60-minute bidirectional service. The current peak service is every 30 minutes so counter-peak service is impossible. For 30-minute bidirectional service, double track segments would need to be 15 minutes apart so an additional double-track segment is required between Agincourt and Kennedy.

The second track between Agincourt and Kennedy was installed in 2021 and it has been sitting disconnected since then. The Highland Creek bridge is not required for 30-minute bidirectional service, all they need to complete are the interlockings south of Highland Creek and north of Kennedy. Connecting to the second track through Kennedy station would be good for service reliability but not strictly required.

Major service increases are unlikely until at least three tracks are in service from Scarborough Junction to the USRC, but if they finally activate that track segment it would enable them to shorten the counter-peak gap by an hour and improve peak-direction service to every 15 minutes. Here's a conceptual timetable I made, where I have outlined the places the counter-peak trains meet peak-direction trains on the Uxbridge sub:

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This is indeed the question. @smallspy indicated that it was impossible to activate only half of the Highland interlocking, but I've also heard conflicting info from others who say that it is possible to activate its south crossover without needing to wait for the Highland Creek bridge to be completed.
 
There are no CSA trainees right now, which means there are no new employees are being actively trained at the moment.
On the other hand there are 10 CTO and 8 QCTO trainees out right now, so people are continuing to move up within the company.
There are more CSAs than there are CTOs and QCTOs by a margin, to the point that they were running a number of trains with 2 CSAs as a means of keeping people working. Upgrading more of the CSAs is simply re-balancing the forces.

There are 40+ trains per day between Aldershot and Toronto, but only 3 trains per day to St. Catharines and Niagara. It is wild that they decided to keep stopping the 3 Niagara trains at Aldershot to benefit Aldershot-Toronto passengers at the expense of the Niagara passengers who have no other train options. (And West Harbour passengers who have half as many train options). Aldershot station provides very little value to people heading to/from Niagara now that Niagara trains can efficiently stop at Hamilton West Harbour.
Aldershot has a substantial parking lot - West Harbour does not. And due to the way that Hamilton is laid out, most people living on the escarpment or to the south find their commutes faster to go to either Aldershot or Burlington.

This is indeed the question. @smallspy indicated that it was impossible to activate only half of the Highland interlocking, but I've also heard conflicting info from others who say that it is possible to activate its south crossover without needing to wait for the Highland Creek bridge to be completed.
I had been told by someone involved in the signal design of the plant at Highland some time ago that the rails were not long enough north of the crossovers to allow for enough signal connections to allow it to be activated, but that's since been corrected by others. And in fact, the Highland interlocking has been activated in its current state.

Dan
 
Aldershot has a substantial parking lot - West Harbour does not. And due to the way that Hamilton is laid out, most people living on the escarpment or to the south find their commutes faster to go to either Aldershot or Burlington.
It does not matter how convenient Hamiltonians find Aldershot for commutes to Toronto, because there are already 42 other trains available for that purpose. These 3 trains are the only trains going to Niagara so they should be optimized for travel to and from Niagara.

There's plenty of available parking capacity at West Harbour for people heading from Hamilton to Niagara. And it's definitely not faster to backtrack all the way to Aldershot and ride the train an additional 12 minutes to West Harbour en route to Niagara.

I had been told by someone involved in the signal design of the plant at Highland some time ago that the rails were not long enough north of the crossovers to allow for enough signal connections to allow it to be activated, but that's since been corrected by others. And in fact, the Highland interlocking has been activated in its current state.
Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification. Then it truly is a mystery why the second track between Agincourt and Kennedy hasn't been put into service yet.
 
There are more CSAs than there are CTOs and QCTOs by a margin, to the point that they were running a number of trains with 2 CSAs as a means of keeping people working. Upgrading more of the CSAs is simply re-balancing the forces.
Oh I know, I was just clarifying that hiring isn’t happening right now, or if it has resumed it hasn’t been long enough for classes to be out training yet.
 
The Kennedy (Oakworth actually) to Highland double track segment doesn’t contribute much added capacity unless other segments are completed. Maybe when the back track is installed at Mount Joy?
I would speculate that without more passing track, any added service would have to terminate at Unionville, and ML may not like the optics of a service where half the ridership has to worry about whether they need to take a bus link to carry on from there. The hourly train to Mount Joy is at least a consistent pattern.

There may also be a need to wait until Barrie can handle half-hourly service so things are equalised all round, and run throughs are more feasible

- Paul
 

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