Northern Light
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The City didn't defer anything.
It told the province that no more money would be forthcoming.
So far as I know, the province hasn't yet announced any reply to that publicly.
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The City didn't defer anything.
It told the province that no more money would be forthcoming.
So far as I know, the province hasn't yet announced any reply to that publicly.
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Okay, I apologize maybe I am not using the correct wording/terminology or understanding the relationship between Metrolinx and the city here. But from what I understand unless then province or federal government provide more money this station is not getting built? Am I correct?
Northern Light
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That's up to the province.
reaperexpress
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Why did you think that the top speed is 100 km/h? I've seen many people say this and don't understand where it's coming from.
Metroscapes
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I saw data from 2010 where GO trains were hitting low 90s (mph) between Milton and Lisgar. I don't know where it's coming from either.
Fritter
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Back in the day with the old cab cars, I would ride in that car beside the cab and peak in watching the speedometer. I thought I witnessed it tickling 100 mph between Ajax and Whitby. The trains often paced or exceeded traffic on the nearby 401. (Assuming 110kph average speed on 401)
smallspy
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They absolutely were not. The maximum speed on the Galt Sub is 75mph. At 5mph above that number, the train is considered "out of control" and must have the emergency brake applied.
That said, there certainly are a number of locations on the system where trains are able to reach 90mph or more.
100mph is not possible in any GO locomotives. At that speed there is a risk of the traction motors birds-nesting due to their rotational speeds.
Plus on the old cab cars, the speedometer is a small LCD display located on the left-hand panel in the cab, and not visible from outside. What you more likely saw was one of the air brake gauges - they are located in the centre of the dash, to the left of the throttle and reverse.
Dan
reaperexpress
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The speed limit on the GO sub (Pickering to Oshawa) is 85 mph (137 km/h) so you can outpace traffic but not at 100 mph. The adjacent CN Kingston Subdivision has a 95 mph (153 km/h) speed limit for Via's current trains.
Trains are generally tested at 10% above the eventual service speed, which for the 93 mph MP40s would be 103 mph. So they will definitely not self destruct at 100 mph. But yes I've never seen any GO train exceed any speed limit. I've seen trains reach 92 mph many times, but I've never seen 93, let alone 94.
Metroscapes
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I must be misremembering the location then. Bound to happen after 15 years.
Northern Light
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Interesting new advocacy campaign on social, originating with the City of Mississauga.
The link above is live, here: https://www.mississauga.ca/council/...zc0XPDikp6P0BKO317_aem_kAjVAx4G3Z4IsJnXVir5WA
There are multiple priorities identified to voters on the above page, when considering how to vote in the Federal election. I will let people follow the link and peruse, but the transit section is below:
The link above is live, here: https://www.mississauga.ca/council/...zc0XPDikp6P0BKO317_aem_kAjVAx4G3Z4IsJnXVir5WA
There are multiple priorities identified to voters on the above page, when considering how to vote in the Federal election. I will let people follow the link and peruse, but the transit section is below:
Sauga89
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I've been expecting something like this (EDIT: though not at the federal level). I think people in Mississauga, particularly Liberals, aren't going to let Doug Ford forget that he promised to improve Milton services through GO 2.0. It will hurt him in the next election here if nothing is done in the next four years. Also, I'm guessing that the city of Mississauga took notes on how the city of Ottawa campaigned successfully for more transit help.
smallspy
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In testing, and under very strict conditions, you're correct they are.
Once out in service however, the speed limit is treated as a hard limit and not to be exceeded under any circumstance. Any speed above the limit requires a locomotive going back into the shops for a thorough inspection at best, and a replacement of the combos at worst.
Dan
crs1026
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I would caution not to read more into this data point than the info is worth - yet - but a colleague who is a heritage/local history enthusiast informed me that they were invited to participate in a ML study regarding the heritage and pedigree of the CPKC Galt Sub Humber River bridge. Details yet to be conveyed.
One wonders why ML would want to study this bridge, unless.... maybe there is background work under way towards something on the Milton line?
- Paul
PS - Besides being a very large bridge with stonework dating from the Credit Valley Railway days, this bridge was one of the last examples of "gauntlet track" construction in Canada - until being doubled in 1914. So, worth a historical note.
One wonders why ML would want to study this bridge, unless.... maybe there is background work under way towards something on the Milton line?
- Paul
PS - Besides being a very large bridge with stonework dating from the Credit Valley Railway days, this bridge was one of the last examples of "gauntlet track" construction in Canada - until being doubled in 1914. So, worth a historical note.
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Sauga89
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Metrolinx has apparently begun a professional services procurement for the Milton Line corridor, specifically, the preliminary design portion of a Transit and Rail Project Assessment Process (TRPAP). This is according a list of procurement contracts related to its capital projects dated March 2025. The deadline on the Milton Line request for proposals is the second quarter of 2025.
I'm not an expert, but a Milton Line corridor TRPAP is a big deal, right?
I'm not an expert, but a Milton Line corridor TRPAP is a big deal, right?
Metroscapes
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Yes and no. It's one step in the process that will weigh pros and cons, consult with public and stakeholders, and guide you to a preliminary design. That's definitely a big deal, but it doesn't mean anything if you don't proceed to detailed design and get funding / land ownership.