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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

Can’t wait to see how Kitchener with a population of 282000 and 106kms away from union gets more frequent and all day service before Mississauga with a population of 770000 and 26kms away from union. Makes total sense.

Note that the Kitchener line got the weekend service, not Kitchener itself. We're still off-line on weekends...
 
Good news is that you can travel by bus from Haggersville.
Google says this is where the gas bar is.

I mean, I'm not sure if a GO bus stop 2 km from Hagersville counts as a stop "in" Hagersville. For there to be a stop in Hagersville, from what I understand, they'd have to add Haldimand County to GO's service area. It seems a waste to come so close and not stop in the town itself.

I drew a rough map of the route from Brantford, with each dot representing a stop.
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If they're not stopping in Hagersville itself, I don't know why they wouldn't scrap that last stop and loop back on Caledonia and the Hamilton airport instead. I imagine a lot of people would have to drive or get dropped off anyways to reach that last stop at the gas bar outside of Hagersville, and it's only a 6 minute drive to reach the next stop at 50 Generations Drive.
 
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I mean, I'm not sure if a GO bus stop 2 km from Hagersville counts as a stop "in" Hagersville. For there to be a stop in Hagersville, from what I understand, they'd have to add Haldimand County to GO's service area. It seems a waste to come so close and not stop in the town itself.

I drew a rough map of the route from Brantford, with each dot representing a stop.
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If they're not stopping in Hagersville itself, I don't know why they wouldn't scrap that last stop and loop back on Caledonia and the Hamilton airport instead. I imagine a lot of people would have to drive or get dropped off anyways to reach that last stop at the gas bar outside of Hagersville, and it's only a 6 minute drive to reach the next stop at 50 Generations Drive.
Cooksville is 2kms away from MCC. At least GO is being consistent.
 
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The HSR route system doesn’t change much. Because of area rating (where municipal taxes differ by region), service is especially limited in the outlying former municipalities.
I believe the City is currently phasing out area rating for the vast majority of items.

There have been a few route changes since 2019 - an extension of service to Winona comes to mind - which makes a lack of current transit map for Hamilton frustrating.

Hamilton has been investing a lot in it's bus system lately, but is currently limited in frequencies by the capacity of their single bus storage garage. Most service improvements have been in the off peak to increase bus utilization.

Their new bus garage should open in a year or so and that will give them a lot more ability to ramp service levels.
 
I mean, I'm not sure if a GO bus stop 2 km from Hagersville counts as a stop "in" Hagersville. For there to be a stop in Hagersville, from what I understand, they'd have to add Haldimand County to GO's service area. It seems a waste to come so close and not stop in the town itself.

I drew a rough map of the route from Brantford, with each dot representing a stop.
View attachment 637530

If they're not stopping in Hagersville itself, I don't know why they wouldn't scrap that last stop and loop back on Caledonia and the Hamilton airport instead. I imagine a lot of people would have to drive or get dropped off anyways to reach that last stop at the gas bar outside of Hagersville, and it's only a 6 minute drive to reach the next stop at 50 Generations Drive.

I gave a crack at it, you can view it here. This is a complete guess, maybe tomorrow we'll learn more.

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I gave a crack at it, you can view it here. This is a complete guess, maybe tomorrow we'll learn more.

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Interesting news. I think GO would be better off just offering a semi-frequent Hwy 6 service to Caledonia / Hagersville. Maybe even extend it down to Simcoe, which is sorely lacking in regional bus connections.
 
Interesting news. I think GO would be better off just offering a semi-frequent Hwy 6 service to Caledonia / Hagersville. Maybe even extend it down to Simcoe, which is sorely lacking in regional bus connections.

Agreed.

I would create a separate route along 54 to connect Caledonia to Brantford.

Every if its only 3x per day, each way. It would connect Caledonia and Six Nations to the largest urban centres nearby.

They could do dail-a-ride or a hyper local service from Oshwekin down to 54.
 
There is in fact an up-to-date HSR map on their website under Schedule & Route Tools > Trip Planning Tools:

Perfect ... and only 3 months old. I didn't click deep enough. I'll stop criticizing the TTC website - hard to believe that in this day and age, HSR doesn't have their own yet!

I gave a crack at it, you can view it here. This is a complete guess, maybe tomorrow we'll learn more.
Why would it go back to Hamilton at all? They've already announced this new leg of service is between the Nations and Brantford.
 
Agreed.

I would create a separate route along 54 to connect Caledonia to Brantford.

Every if its only 3x per day, each way. It would connect Caledonia and Six Nations to the largest urban centres nearby.

They could do dail-a-ride or a hyper local service from Oshwekin down to 54.
Yup. could tie in a Hamilton Airport connection as well, I think it would be decently well used as a semi-frequent service from Caledonia northwards - Probably bi-hourly with hourly peak hour service. South of Caledonia you could do a more infrequent service for regional connections - a few buses a day.

Caledonia has probably around 20,000 people these days and a large commuter flow into Hamilton, with another 100,000 people or so scattered across Haldimand and Norfolk counties. There is a population base for it.

Generally, GO could expend semi-frequent services in the following areas I think:

1. Haldimand / Norfolk
2. Southern Niagara (Welland & Port Colbourne)
3. Lindsay / Kawartha Lakes
4. Orillia
5. Collingwood / Wasaga Beach
6. Alliston
7. Port Hope / Cobourg
8. Elmira / Fergus
9. Stratford
 
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Yup. could tie in a Hamilton Airport connection as well, I think it would be decently well used as a semi-frequent service from Caledonia northwards - Probably bi-hourly with hourly peak hour service. South of Caledonia you could do a more infrequent service for regional connections - a few buses a day.

Caledonia has probably around 20,000 people these days and a large commuter flow into Hamilton, with another 100,000 people or so scattered across Haldimand and Norfolk counties. There is a population base for it.

Generally, GO could expend semi-frequent services in the following areas I think:

1. Haldimand / Norfolk
2. Southern Niagara (Welland & Port Colbourne)
3. Lindsay / Kawartha Lakes
4. Orillia
5. Collingwood / Wasaga Beach
6. Alliston
7. Port Hope / Cobourg
8. Elmira / Fergus
9. Stratford

Of the above, Welland is integrated to Niagara Transit, which, hopefully, is set to become a moderately robust service over the next few years.

Orillia could be served (well is) by Lynx.......but needs to be 7-days per week and have evenings as well.

The others seem more isolated / in need of GO to me.
 

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