GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

[turbanplanner]

Nope. Only ever sent emails to Metrolinx and got the standard response's such as "We’ve heard from many of our GO customers that they would love to see more service, and we’re working on it".

Not entirely related but I asked why the scrapped the super express from Aldershot to long branch and this is what I heard back. kind of vague considering I think the trains still deadhead back (though I could be wrong!)

 

[nfitz]

A true FOAD

I doubt that they even fully read it. Years ago, GO's customer service compared to TTC's was exceptional. It's amazing how things have changed.

 

[Allandale25]

Nope. Only ever sent emails to Metrolinx and got the standard response's such as "We’ve heard from many of our GO customers that they would love to see more service, and we’re working on it".

Might be worth a shot.

 

[asher__jo]

Every transit agency in the province has this data, down to the boardings at stops. But very few actually publish the amount we want. Generally speaking, they do see it as something that can be used against them. Sometimes they are right; you can make some very critical observations of a transit agency with this in hand.

The few agencies that do post more robust data (monthly ridership, by route, etc.) are generally on the upper end of service quality in the province- the TTC is actually the only one I know of, but GRT, Brampton and Mississauga might as well.

Metrolinx should see themselves as ‘worthy’ of posting said numbers, as their service does not suffer from underfunding that would make them look bad. But, it’s hardly out of character for them to be more secretive than they need to be.

That means we got to wait…. Any day now…. for that damned 2021 TTS!

I smell an opportunity for Bonnie Crombie to propose dissolving Metrolinx and giving cities some funding. Marit Styles is proposing big changes with transit funding.

 

[afransen]

I smell an opportunity for Bonnie Crombie to propose dissolving Metrolinx and giving cities some funding. Marit Styles is proposing big changes with transit funding.

Not sure this would be a good idea. A regional transit agency is probably necessary. It could just be run more transparently and accountably.

 

[nfitz]

Not sure this would be a good idea. A regional transit agency is probably necessary. It could just be run more transparently and accountably.

I don't think a Liberal government that is further right than the last Liberal government is going to do that.

 

[Willybru21]

Developments being proposed near Metrolinx-owned rail corridors listed on the Toronto AIC page have noise studies that show the current planned amount of train movements per day on each line. (I was not the one to notice this but I’ll happily pass it along):

I also made a diagram listing the daytime numbers (0700-2300) and how frequent departures would be if they were averaged out over the 16 hour period. For simplicities sake I have assumed every train is running revenue between these hours, that obviously will not be the case but it would be impossible for me to pick out which of them would be non-revenue:

The AIC sources are also listed here but I believe every development proposal within a few hundred metres of a rail corridor would have these listed in their noise studies.

 

[Northern Light]

^^^^^

Excellent post @Willybru21

And due credit to your diligent observer.

 

[Dan416]

Milton looks as disappointing as ever, if not even more so.

 

[afransen]

Developments being proposed near Metrolinx-owned rail corridors listed on the Toronto AIC page have noise studies that show the current planned amount of train movements per day on each line. (I was not the one to notice this but I’ll happily pass it along):
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I also made a diagram listing the daytime numbers (0700-2300) and how frequent departures would be if they were averaged out over the 16 hour period. For simplicities sake I have assumed every train is running revenue between these hours, that obviously will not be the case but it would be impossible for me to pick out which of them would be non-revenue:View attachment 614987
The AIC sources are also listed here but I believe every development proposal within a few hundred metres of a rail corridor would have these listed in their noise studies.

This is really damning with regard to level of service on the Milton Line, considering the ridership it achieves despite the paltry level of service.

 

[Dan416]

And I have to stay the Milton trains are absolutely packed these past few weeks (I normally take the 8 am train from Cooksville and the 5:55 pm from Union--been waiting forever for them to add a train in between 5:25 and 5:55, i.e. at 5:40 pm).

 

[Allandale25]

^ In 2024, the province made its offer to the feds publicly known including the cost. We'll see if the Province and Federal government will commit. One would think that if the CPC wants to demonstrate ways to help the environment without the carbon tax that this would be a good example, and Mississauga/Milton are key swing/battleground seats...

 

[nfitz]

I'd noticed this for some developments near Danforth GO. I hadn't put 2+2 together.

Though what's the planning year for this - I don't recall an indication? Is this ultimate, decades from now, or as soon as perhaps 2041.

 

[Willybru21]

I'd noticed this for some developments near Danforth GO. I hadn't put 2+2 together.

Though what's the planning year for this - I don't recall an indication? Is this ultimate, decades from now, or as soon as perhaps 2041.

I’m sure Metrolinx intends to have most of, if not all, planned GO Expansion projects wrapped up by 2032-35. I know 2032 was previously mentioned somewhere.

Of course that is under the assumption that everything goes perfectly, which is pretty unlikely to happen

 

[Bojaxs]

This is really damning with regard to level of service on the Milton Line, considering the ridership it achieves despite the paltry level of service.


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I'll offer some push back.
I don't think this is realistic. There's no way Metrolinx can get to these frequencies with 3 crew member trains. The staffing costs would bankrupt them. Frequencies under 10 minutes and Metrolinx is going to have to seriously consider running automated trains (would that even be legal?) or figure out how to shrink train crews down to 1 man per train. The amount of staffing that would be required to get to less than 10 minute frequency would be immense. Metrolinx's ability to provide high frequencies is dependent on how much they've budgeted for crew payroll.
And as I pointed out earlier, a single crew train means all stations need to have level boarding.