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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

I've worked with electricity system control rooms where they don't change to daylight saving time to avoid two 02:00s occurring when clocks "go back" an hour. Do the railways also stay on Standard Time all year?
 
E•MO•TION said:
Their termination letters from their current employer state “effective midnight”.
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Are they termination letters? I'd assume the letter would transfer employment with the new entity.

If they phrased it as a termination, they'd have to pay severance, and still need a new workforce. (Isn't there rules about terminating employees when the work continues, with the original employer still involved in the new entity?)
 
Traditionally railways worked on standard time year round, to the extreme where timetables were printed in standard time and there were two clocks in depots, one showing railroad time and the other showing “city time”. That changed I believe in the late 1960’s

There are fairly careful procedures applied for the hour of transition each spring and fall

Back in the day when timetable operation was in use, extreme measures were applied at time change such as covering clocks that might not get changed right away, for fear that someone would look in a window and rely on the (wrong) time.

- Paul
 
nfitz said:
Are they termination letters? I'd assume the letter would transfer employment with the new entity.

If they phrased it as a termination, they'd have to pay severance, and still need a new workforce. (Isn't there rules about terminating employees when the work continues, with the original employer still involved in the new entity?)
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Could be there was a legal entity specifically formed for the sole purpose of the original contract, and now Onxpress has simply bought that entity, perhaps for $1, so it's not technically a real change of employer.
 
Jonny5 said:
Could be there was a legal entity specifically formed for the sole purpose of the original contract, and now Onxpress has simply bought that entity, perhaps for $1, so it's not technically a real change of employer.
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It is considered a change of employer. They will be receiving RoEs and should be receiving new letters of contract, if they haven't already. That's how they can get away with such silly nonsense as restricting their vacation for the first year or two of the contract.

Dan
 
smallspy said:
It is considered a change of employer. They will be receiving RoEs and should be receiving new letters of contract, if they haven't already. That's how they can get away with such silly nonsense as restricting their vacation for the first year or two of the contract.
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Well, it's how they can try. I assume there's a union.
 
Bojaxs said:
For office staff? Unlikely.
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Ouch. Certainly not all of them. I hadn't considered that.

They still have the option to make a legal challenge, but it becomes expensive and onerous for individuals. I bet the slimy management they just hired (who they can easily impose such conditions) are subjected to that.
 
Krypto98 said:
From what ive been told is all the operating staff are on 90 trip/day probation once onxpress comes in... which means pretty much anyone could get fired for no reason
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The only thing about letting operating staff go, is good luck finding a replacement in quick order. You can't hire some chump off the street and have them operate a train after a couple of online training courses.
Alstom already can't provide the staffing needs for the service Metrolinx wants to operate. From what I understand, there has been very few new operators in the industry in the last few years. There just has been a game of musical chairs wherein VIA will steal some operators from Metrolinx or CN/CPKC, and CN/CPKC will steal some from VIA or Metrolinx and so on.
 
Fritter said:
The only thing about letting operating staff go, is good luck finding a replacement in quick order. You can't hire some chump off the street and have them operate a train after a couple of online training courses.
Alstom already can't provide the staffing needs for the service Metrolinx wants to operate. From what I understand, there has been very few new operators in the industry in the last few years. There just has been a game of musical chairs wherein VIA will steal some operators from Metrolinx or CN/CPKC, and CN/CPKC will steal some from VIA or Metrolinx and so on.
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The conductors and engineers will get transferred over. They're unionized.

The office staff who work for MX directly, their future is in question.
 
OnXpress will absolutely not be letting operators go, nobody knows what the future crewing requirements will be better than OnXpress, who designed the future service levels.

I've heard through the grapevine (so take it with a grain of salt) that the opposite of laying people off might happen, and former employees let go under Alstom will have an open invitation to return.
 
Willybru21 said:
OnXpress will absolutely not be letting operators go, nobody knows what the future crewing requirements will be better than OnXpress, who designed the future service levels.

I've heard through the grapevine (so take it with a grain of salt) that the opposite of laying people off might happen, and former employees let go under Alstom will have an open invitation to return.
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How much can GO realistically increase service levels for their trains when Canadian regulations force them to operate every train with a 3 man crew?

If every station had level boarding, would GO still need a CSA in every train?
 
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