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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)

^ what's also interesting is the feds have said that CP's Milton Line should get this trade coordinator funding that would help run more GO train service but haven't done the same for the portion of the Kitchener Line that's used by CN for their major trade corridor...
 
Imagine we get an Orangeville Line using the Milton corridor up to Streetsville and then branching off to the OBRY. Now that there isn’t any use of that corridor as of now, we could convert it into an actual frequent all day line. If the whole Milton line gets all day service, then we can see Brampton have a 2nd GO line, and Union-Streetsville would possibly have subway like service.

15 min service on the Kitchener Line could be pushed even further to extend to Brampton GO due to the possibility of having an actual interchange station between it and the OBRY. Downtown Brampton riders then have 2 options to Union, to either head to Malton/York, or to go through Streetstown/Etobicoke and of course it’ll be more convenient for any riders traveling in between.

Now if only the government can actually see this butterfly effect of logic..
 
If the federal government led the initiative to have rail infrastructure capable of handling frequent passenger service to Milton and Cambridge and were willing to pay for it fully, can you imagine the Ford government being an obstacle? No. But the feds just want to cut a check, not for the full amount, and let someone else deal with all the actual work and risk. They should probably focus on the HFR project and wait to be asked to fund what the city and province would like to prioritize if they aren't willing to pick up the whole tab.
 
EnviroTO said:
If the federal government led the initiative to have rail infrastructure capable of handling frequent passenger service to Milton and Cambridge and were willing to pay for it fully, can you imagine the Ford government being an obstacle? No. But the feds just want to cut a check, not for the full amount, and let someone else deal with all the actual work and risk. They should probably focus on the HFR project and wait to be asked to fund what the city and province would like to prioritize if they aren't willing to pick up the whole tab.
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I expect that Ottawa and QP will have no difficulty in finding agreement on funding the Milton line.... when the time is right. Realistically, ML is not in a position to manage yet another project on top of all the things they have to do to get ready for Oncorr. Milton will require land acquisition, community relations, and much civil work, and a negotiation with CP .... so it will be ML, and not Oncorr, that has the bigger task to launch the Milton line when the time comes.
Ford actually has actually done a lot of things on the transit file, which he can point to in the election campaign. So the Liberals make an issue of the one thing he clearly hasn't done....hoping to spin away his credits and position him as not meeting the needs of the largest 905 City.
Like I said, pure theatre, with the election in mind.

- Paul
 
Allandale25 said:
^ and the PDBC. Written in 2020 but only published now

www.metrolinx.com

About the 2041 Regional Transportation Plan

2041 Regional Transportation Plan
www.metrolinx.com


Re GM spur:

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I had to create a version of the plans released that (roughly) aligned.

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smallspy said:
Those are pretty crappy exports to the PDF so we can't zoom in on the numbers, but those curve radii look awfully tight, too.

Also note that the grades seem to mostly be on curves, which is greatly going to increase resistance and drag. 2 units can do it, but will have a tough time of it.

So all-in-all, that's going to be over a mile of track to traverse at 10-15mph.

Dan
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How does it compare to the curve for the Bala Sub/Richmond Hill line as it joins the USRC near the Don River?
 
anb said:
Imagine we get an Orangeville Line using the Milton corridor up to Streetsville and then branching off to the OBRY. Now that there isn’t any use of that corridor as of now, we could convert it into an actual frequent all day line.
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I'd think you'd get faster service to Orangeville by branching of the Kitchener line just west of Brampton GO. I don't think there's much worth serving in Mississauga or Brampton between Streetsville and Brampton GO. Other than Britannia, most of the potential station locations look difficult environmentally. And then there's the backtracking.
 
Allandale25 said:
How does it compare to the curve for the Bala Sub/Richmond Hill line as it joins the USRC near the Don River?
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Well, at 3-ish % this is far steeper. And at a quick blush, looks tighter too.

The curve onto the USRC from the Bala is rated at 25mph, buf the total PSO is only about .6 of a mile, whereas the one in Oshawa is over 1.1 miles (and potentially more, depending on where the tie-in with the Belleville Sub is done).

Dan
 
smallspy said:
May 24 weekend seems to be what they are looking at.

Dan
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Thank you @smallspy for responding. So with the Victoria weekend starting on Sat 21 May service will be increased or with the following Tuesday?

So far the Niagara Falls train will be running in the long Victoria Day weekend based on my source.
 
Andy_in_Toronto said:
Sat 21 May service will be increased or with the following Tuesday?
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GO's work week starts on a Saturday, so all new service "starts" on a Saturday. If the service change involves Weekday changes, then the change will begin the first weekday after the Saturday change date.
With this May 24 weekend, weekend improvements will begin on May 21st and any weekday improvements will begin May 24th
 
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