ARG1
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I assume the increase in Speed for the Kitchener Line is due to the improvements around Guelph?
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GO Transit: Service thread (including extensions)
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reaperexpress
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Correct. Although the Guelph slow zone was lifted on 16 December 2021, the associated travel time savings weren't reflected in the timetables until 22 January 2022, hence why they showed up in this year's summary. The travel time for express trains is now 1h35, compared to 1h40 in autumn 2021.
The slow zone in Georgetown is still in place and there seem to be considerable delays in their plans to resolve it.
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Allandale25
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FYI
Northern Light
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So the train can depart 1M early or so it can sit there with its doors closed for sixty seconds? Seems rather odd.
Allandale25
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nfitz
Superstar
I don't think those buttons have ever been used for anything. I'm not sure if all the doors even have buttons.
An odd move. Especially given how padded the schedules are at Union. Why not just pad them a minute more (by cutting into the dwell time).
Allandale25
Senior Member
I've used them before at Oshawa. I think they closed the doors because of how cold it was outside.
reaperexpress
Senior Member
Yeah I have used the buttons as well while the train was sitting at Kitchener, but not all the coaches have them - the others just had the doors open.
Here in the Netherlands it is standard procedure to close the doors 20 seconds before the departure time, and start moving on the first second of the departure time. I actually find that a stupid practice, because the point of the schedule is to tell the riders when they need to be at the station. In my opinion they should close the doors at the departure time and depart 20 seconds later so people don't always need to subtract 20 seconds from when they get to the station. It's really annoying to miss the 09:00 train when you were already on the platform at 08:59:45.
I agree with nfitz. If they need more time in the schedule, then add more time in the schedule. And if they want to bump up their own metrics, then move the internal departure time to 20 seconds past the minute. It doesn't take a full minute to close the doors.
Here in the Netherlands it is standard procedure to close the doors 20 seconds before the departure time, and start moving on the first second of the departure time. I actually find that a stupid practice, because the point of the schedule is to tell the riders when they need to be at the station. In my opinion they should close the doors at the departure time and depart 20 seconds later so people don't always need to subtract 20 seconds from when they get to the station. It's really annoying to miss the 09:00 train when you were already on the platform at 08:59:45.
I agree with nfitz. If they need more time in the schedule, then add more time in the schedule. And if they want to bump up their own metrics, then move the internal departure time to 20 seconds past the minute. It doesn't take a full minute to close the doors.
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Coolibop
Active Member
Perhaps the 1 minute rule has to do with the conductor closing and checking doors on both sides in addition to taking in the ramp.
Krypto98
Active Member
I was thinking more of charging up the airbrakes to release?
nfitz
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Coolibop
Active Member
Not both (north/south) doors and also volumes at union of people running to catch train. But, to your point I think that would only apply to LE/LW?
crs1026
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I suspect this is all about passenger behaviour when they get to the platform at last minute.
Intaxication - the euphoria when you get a tax refund, until you realise it was your money in the first place.
Same thing here - you will dash for the platform, see the doors closing, gesture indignantly to the CSA, who will open the doors again, and you will feel better. And then the doors will close and the train will leave on time.
The same bad behaviour will still happen, only a minute earlier.
I would much rather that the train leave exactly on time and we deal with people who can't accept that they were 15 seconds too late.
- Paul
Intaxication - the euphoria when you get a tax refund, until you realise it was your money in the first place.
Same thing here - you will dash for the platform, see the doors closing, gesture indignantly to the CSA, who will open the doors again, and you will feel better. And then the doors will close and the train will leave on time.
The same bad behaviour will still happen, only a minute earlier.
I would much rather that the train leave exactly on time and we deal with people who can't accept that they were 15 seconds too late.
- Paul
T3G
Senior Member
There was something funky going on on the Milton train at Union last night. The doors closed and opened again at least 10 times within a 10 minute timeframe. Might this new operating practice have something to do with it?
Deadpool X
Senior Member
To make people realize hard that they should leave more buffer?