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GO Transit: Construction Projects (Metrolinx, various)
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reaperexpress
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The speed limit is technically 90 mph (145 km/h), but that segment is flanked by 80 mph (129 km/h) curves. Trains probably wouldn't bother accelerating above 130 km/h unless they're in an exceptional hurry.
Source: LAKESHORE EAST RAIL CORRIDOR EXPANSION | Don River to Scarborough Station Project EPR (2017), page 10 (PDF page 32)
The track alignment plan from 2019 is here (70MB PDF): http://www.metrolinx.com/en/regionalplanning/rer/LSE_Segment1_Appendix A - Design Plates.pdf.^ Wonder if @crs1026 has the roll plans
I would try to find them but I find the Engage site hard to navigate. Not sure if they would be on the main Metrolinx website. I guess someone could also email the Toronto.East@Metrolinx.com account.
The new layout for Danforth Station is definitely not what I would have gone with. The station is shown with two island platforms (i.e. quad track express configuration), but this creates a whole bunch of headaches due to the need to shift the outer tracks around the platforms:
From page 14 of the EPR linked above:
The new track will take the place of the current westbound platform under the bridge.
This will make access to Main Street considerably less convenient than today, which in my opinion is a very big deal given the effects on access to Main Street Station. The reason the station is being shifted east is to allow the centre express tracks to have platforms, but without a convenient connection to the subway it wouldn't be worth stopping express trains there anyway. The area itself is quite lively, but it's not a destination to the point that many people would specifically heading there from Durham Region. And I say that as someone who used to live next door to the station.
In my opinion, it would be better to set up the station as local station with side platforms on the outer tracks only. Most importantly, it would allow the current westbound platform to remain as-is, along with its convenient access off Main Street. And the new eastbound platform would be accessible from the existing south exit from the pedestrian tunnel just east of Main Street. The new eastbound express track would take the place of the current island platform, and the new eastbound local track would be roughly in the position of the current eastbound track.
Existing side platform in grey, new side platform in beige:
On top of being much more convenient for customers, this configuration would also be much cheaper to build, because it:
- doesn't require the rail corridor to be widened at all
- avoids the need to extend the current pedestrian tunnel northward
- reduces the number of elevators required in the new pedestrian tunnels from 4 each to 2 each.
- avoids the need to rebuild the current westbound platform to the east
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Allandale25
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^ Thanks! 70MB. Sigh. They should create an interactive map with images that pop up and can be downloaded as .jpeg 
crs1026
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^ I seem to recall some discussion way back in this thread about how the Danforth station plan has changed again, but I'm mobile and can't scroll back easily.
Those speeds are the "design" speeds for GO trains, presumably.
On the existing tracks, certain VIA equipment (LRC rated, ie P42 locos and LRC coaches, with no HEP or F40's in the consist) is allowed 100 mph in that stretch.
- Paul
Those speeds are the "design" speeds for GO trains, presumably.
On the existing tracks, certain VIA equipment (LRC rated, ie P42 locos and LRC coaches, with no HEP or F40's in the consist) is allowed 100 mph in that stretch.
- Paul
generalcanada
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So that is the only design that exists for LSE? they never released an updated design?
Note that the old scarborough station rail-under-rail grade separation is not a part of this
Northern Light
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Certainly that was not the alignment envisioned by the proponents of the new development north of Main Square.
Though, they didn't come to agreement with GO on a new entrance, and what the disagreements were I'm not clear on.
But they showed a configuration of side-island-side.
In general, its my impression that the significant shift to the east of the station was nixed.
I believe there may still be a small shift, given that Mx owns a lot on Dawes which they intended as PPUDO
nfitz
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It varies. Especially around Main Station, which is the foreground of some of those shots. There are station buildings in the way.
yin_yang
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What station is that a render of? It looks good.
nfitz
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It varies. Especially around Main Station, which is the foreground of some of those shots. There are station buildings in the way.
Which is much more recent.
I've seen numerous different design, all slowly creeping further west. The one in the EA is surely not current.
As far as I know, they haven't finished (or at least bothered to tell anyone) the design through Main yet. But I'm curious.
I'd assume though that the north side is the fourth track, and the south side, would be there equipment and office area is, as that's where there good road access is. Need to cut down a lot of trees for porta-potties!
Danforth, looking north up Main Street towards the subway station.
smallspy
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Just to keep everyone on their toes, I guess...
The most recent set of roll plans released for the electrification/additional tracks/Scarborough Grade Separation show that the existing Danforth Station will remain as-is, with a fourth track built on the south side and with a new platform servicing it.
Dan
The most recent set of roll plans released for the electrification/additional tracks/Scarborough Grade Separation show that the existing Danforth Station will remain as-is, with a fourth track built on the south side and with a new platform servicing it.
Dan
generalcanada
Senior Member
do you mind sourcing that? i found this, which isnt exactly specific on new tracks or platforms for Danforth https://www.metrolinxengage.com/sites/default/files/lakeshore_east_roll_plan.pdf
smallspy
Senior Member
That's the one and the same. It's not very clear at first blush, but if you look closely around Danforth it shows tracks 2 and 3 realigned, with a 4th track located to the south. For whatever reason, they chose not to show track 1 through that section, although it does show crossovers leading to and from it.
Dan
Allandale25
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The Toronto Danforth MPP is holding a virtual town hall on the Don Valley Layover.
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Welcome! You are invited to join a webinar: Don Valley Layover - Public Meeting. Co Hosted with MPP Peter Tabuns. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about joining the webinar.
Welcome! You are invited to join a webinar: Don Valley Layover - Public Meeting. Co Hosted with MPP Peter Tabuns. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about joining the webinar.
Public Meeting for the Metrolinx Don Valley Service facility
You are invited to a Zoom webinar.
When: Apr 15, 2021 07:00 PM Eastern Time (US and Canada)
Topic: Don Valley Layover - Public Meeting
The invited panelists currently planned are Floyd Ruskin (Don't Mess With the Don), Paula Fletcher, Peter Tabuns, TRCA, Metrolinx, and Steve Smith.
Register in advance for this webinar:
Welcome! You are invited to join a webinar: Don Valley Layover - Public Meeting. Co Hosted with MPP Peter Tabuns. After registering, you will receive a confirmation email about joining the webinar.
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drum118
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