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General railway discussions

Anyway my point is that even if signed in ink stuff can get cancelled.

Such as building the Ontario line in streetcar tunnels that where cancelled in the 90's on queen st.

Now with PP's unpopularity in the house it's unlikely that he will get support from any party to support his government if he wins a minority allowing the other parties to work against him.
Another outcome is that JT steps down and they find an interim leader who will work with the BLOC and NDP to avoid an election likely for about 6-12 months since nobody really wants an election.

The NDP likely don't want PP to get elected because he plans to repeal the progress they made with the Dental and pharmacare programs.

The bloc also don't want an election because they cannot afford it. And they have refused to work with PP saying that he is a sleeze ball

If JT doesn't step down they could formulate a new budget that will get enough votes to pass without an election.

The only outcome where PP will benefit is if he wins a majority. Now given that he is ahead in the polls it's possible, but he doesn't have a real platform. He's just anti JT everything. Which is great but axing the carbon tax sounds great but how will we protect the environment? There isn't a clear plan here.

So a lot can change during an election campaign. Plus he doesn't have security clearance so how would he be the prime minister?

Sorry for the rant. Just wanted to lay it out to say that even though funding has been approved or committed and shovels are in the ground, things can still be canceled as history has shown time and again.
The Queen St tunnel was cancel in the 40's when the Feds pull their $25m for it and why only part of the Queen St station shell exist today.

Mike Harris told Toronto that they had $1 Billion to build a subway line when there were 2 being built in the 90's that saw Sheppard get built and the Eglinton one fill in.

How much of the GO system decrease in the 90's as well??
 
Railways are federally regulated. Having the city 's support is useless.

No question - this motion won't move the dial on getting anything going. It is a "noise motion", nothing more.

But it's interesting political context, especially in terms of begging the question of support for the Corridor project.....which Toronto City Council may have implicitly endorsed.

- Paul
 
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No question - this motion won't move the dial on getting anything going. It is a "noise motion", nothing more.

But it's interesting political context, especially in terms of begging the question of support for the Corridor project.....which Toronto City Council may have implicitly endorsed.

- Paul

The only portion of the existing route (the only one on the table) that would be subject to Canadian investment is really the Grimsby Sub and associated new crossing of the Welland Canal. A project we should be pursuing anyway.

True high speed, on the U.S. side is barely plausible on the current routing (shared with CSX freight between Albany and Buffalo).

NYS even Biden hasn't proposed a new corridor on their side, so far as I'm aware, and any efficient routing for NYC to Toronto means a new under-Lake tunnel that would be stratospherically expensive. Buffalo to Toronto HFR/HSR has some resonance. NYC is a long way off. File under time wasting.
 
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No government operates within a vacuum. If the entire Toronto council voted for it, that would send a strong message to whomever is in change when it comes up federally that it is something that is wanted.
I think that some federal governments care what municipalities think. It's more the chamber of commerce or business associations that get the bulk of the attention because of the lobbyists.
 

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