General cycling issues (Is Toronto bike friendly?)

[Admiral Beez]

The stop signs (which should be replaced with yield signs)

That I agree with. We should have a different stop sign that applies to bicycles as well as cars, if only to keep them safe when it's not a four way stop. Otherwise one way street signs and stop signs shouldn't apply to bikes. But since they do, cyclists like myself should be stopping at them.

 

[W. K. Lis]

That I agree with. We should have a different stop sign that applies to bicycles as well as cars, if only to keep them safe when it's not a four way stop. Otherwise one way street signs and stop signs shouldn't apply to bikes. But since they do, cyclists like myself should be stopping at them.

Replace the 4-way stops with a raised intersection with yield (sharks teeth). Cyclists and motorists are then forced to slow down.

From link.

 

[felix123]

They kept the bikes (and pedestrians) off of the sidewalks during their High Park blitz by parking their own cars on it.

There are always these dumb pickup truck drivers who park on the sidewalk around me (King West) as their default parking method. That, or thy park 2 wheels on the sidewalk, 2 on the bike lane.

 

[W. K. Lis]

 

[robmausser]

Furthermore, something they alluded to but I would love to see the actual data on; when a car does a rolling stop at a stop sign, they are typically going just as fast as a bike that doesnt even slow down for one! It only feels slower because the car was going 60 km/h, and had to slow to 15 km/h to roll at the stop sign. Meanwhile a cyclist is biking at roughly 20 km/h and to slow to that same rolling speed would be almost imperceptible. So it seems like bikes are gliding through stop signs, and cars slowing down, when they are rolling through at the same speed.

Our human perceptions of speed are actually more tied to acceleration and deceleration.

 

[W. K. Lis]

They'll get better results replacing the STOP signs with YIELD signs, and more importantly, use raised crosswalks or raised intersections to FORCE every user to slow down.

 

[evandyk]

Furthermore, something they alluded to but I would love to see the actual data on; when a car does a rolling stop at a stop sign, they are typically going just as fast as a bike that doesnt even slow down for one! It only feels slower because the car was going 60 km/h, and had to slow to 15 km/h to roll at the stop sign. Meanwhile a cyclist is biking at roughly 20 km/h and to slow to that same rolling speed would be almost imperceptible. So it seems like bikes are gliding through stop signs, and cars slowing down, when they are rolling through at the same speed.

Our human perceptions of speed are actually more tied to acceleration and deceleration.

Not only that, but a bike can go from 15 to 0 pretty much on a dime, while a car most definitely cannot.

I almost got rolled through by a large pickup truck this morning at King and Bay, along with 5 or 6 other pedestrians. The driver saw us, he just didn't care.

 

[allengeorge]

'It's frustrating': Mississauga residents group says bike lane project violates their Charter rights

Stakes are high as the city is set to host a third, previously unplanned, community meeting for the Bloor Street integrated project, a proposal that recommends adding 4.6 kilometres of bike lanes on...

www.mississauga.com

 

[Northern Light]

'It's frustrating': Mississauga residents group says bike lane project violates their Charter rights

Stakes are high as the city is set to host a third, previously unplanned, community meeting for the Bloor Street integrated project, a proposal that recommends adding 4.6 kilometres of bike lanes on...

www.mississauga.com

From the above.....

Oooookkkkkay then.

 

[evandyk]

I do know a few things about constitutional law, and I can assure you that no court will ever agree that this bike lane violates their charter rights.

 

[Undead]

Try telling me we don't live in an idiocracy lmao

 

[vic]

I suppose that having cars, trucks, buses, etc. on my street also violates my charter rights by stripping us of the freedom to make fundamental personal choices of our individual dignity to live without fear and the individual independence to choose how we live our lives in our homes. Anyone have their lawyer's contact info for me?

 

[Northern Light]

I suppose that having cars, trucks, buses, etc. on my street also violates my charter rights by stripping us of the freedom to make fundamental personal choices of our individual dignity to live without fear and the individual independence to choose how we live our lives in our homes. Anyone have their lawyer's contact info for me?

I don't believe they consulted a lawyer prior to making that statement; and if they did, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to retain their services; unless chutzpah is the service you're after.

 

[Johnny Au]

I suppose that having cars, trucks, buses, etc. on my street also violates my charter rights by stripping us of the freedom to make fundamental personal choices of our individual dignity to live without fear and the individual independence to choose how we live our lives in our homes. Anyone have their lawyer's contact info for me?

We cyclists also have freedom of mobility.

We must not be subject to being injured from oncoming traffic just for exercising our freedom of mobility.

Motorists can rule the freeways for all I care because that's what freeways are for but motorists must share local streets with pedestrians and cyclists.

 

[afransen]

Right... navigating bike lanes is what puts users of the road and neighbourhood at risk. Nevermind that the narrowing of vehicle lanes will probably do more to calm the street and enhance safety than the risk that bike lanes could possible pose.