robmausser
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You dont even have to go that far. Montreal has been doing a better job than us at it for decades.
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General cycling issues (Is Toronto bike friendly?)
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Admiral Beez
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Then if this matters to us, we must build a coalition of voters based upon multiple issues, across the province to remove him. My guess is that within 4-6 months Stiles and Crombie will split the anti-PC vote and Ford will get his new majority. Then he'll tear our bike lanes to pieces.
nfitz
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Offhand, I don't recall seeing that many bike lanes in Vancouver on major streets. The ones I've seen seem to be wasted with a lot of protection on minor streets! But perhaps that's just where I've been.
Vancouver could learn a few things from Toronto about sidewalk design. I've neer seen such poorly maintained pavement, with so many trip hazards, especially on side streets. That they don't get frost heave, makes the whole thing especially egregious!
The speed limits there in residential areas are absurd. 50 km/hr on most streets, no matter how small they are. That doesn't make cycling safer. And then there's the beg buttons at major intersections, with more pedestrians than cars. The city doesn't strike me as particularly pedestrian or bicycle-friendly.
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I did some cycling in Vancouver a month or so ago and agree that their bike lanes (both design and location) are not better than ours - they are good and they have the great trails around/through Stanley Park but we have some great ones too. I agree that our roads are generally in better condition than theirs too.
vic
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Vancouver has some great bikeways off of major streets because it's much easier to do there. Their minor streets actually continue to follow the grid.
In Toronto you can't really get anywhere by following side streets without zig-zagging all over the place and hopping back on to major roads frequently.
In Toronto you can't really get anywhere by following side streets without zig-zagging all over the place and hopping back on to major roads frequently.
nfitz
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I wouldn't really notice them much on the side-streets. So fair enough, I downloaded the current bike map from https://vancouver.ca/streets-transportation/cycling-routes-maps-and-trip-planner.aspx
I seem to spend a lot of time on the 99B-line when I'm there. So let's see the alternatives.
West 8th Avenue (westbound) - ah, protective paint!
West 4th Avenue (eastbound) - I don't even see painted lines here!
Discovery Street (which I do drive down - and none here either - despite the sign!)
East 10th Avenue - at least there's no parking here, but no paint either
I feel that I'm being gaslit here. And a huge dose of "the grass is always greener".
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turbanplanner
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As someone who enjoys the cycling trains, can any explain why what feels like a quarter of the off street bike trails seem to be closed every year?
The waterfront trail was closed in Scarborough, The Moore Park Ravine trail was closed for several years, and now the don river trail for quite a while.
The waterfront trail was closed in Scarborough, The Moore Park Ravine trail was closed for several years, and now the don river trail for quite a while.
evandyk
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I moved into the St. Lawrence neighbourhood, excited about how easy it would be to ride up the Don trail. Almost immediately it closed. Since then I had a baby, he started school, he started another year of school, I built a house, and I moved. Trail is still not open.
Admiral Beez
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The Eglinton Crosstown will open before the Don Trail does
81-717
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This also highlights how ridiculous it is that some people (who are obviously incapable of nuanced thinking) think the same traffic rules should apply to cars and bikes equally:
When a cyclist hits you you may take a spill (and so would the cyclist mind you). When a car hits you you're not posting on urbantoronto the next day or possibly ever.
That's the main difference between cars and bikes (and the fact that bikes, including e-bikes/e-scooters, can be walked or lifted/carried by hand, while cars cannot), and why trying to equate the two is intellectually dishonest and wouldn't do anyone any favors.
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rbt
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I still wish all cyclists would at least slow down when running red lights at 3-way intersections like Queen/Ossington.
Having 80kg smash into you at 30km/h isn't exactly risk-free, nor is the pedestrian smashing their head on the pavement when they fall.
I readily admit I creep through 3-way red-lights myself but it's closer to 5km/h.
81-717
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The same can be said about the cyclist.
Oh I do too (as well as rolling stops and advanced green starts), but ofc I make sure it's safe to do so, and typically I'd get off the bike and walk through the 3-way red light to not be overly blatant (especially when there are pedestrians crossing on their green light). As for rolling stops, I'd always be ready to hit the brakes (as well as change to lower gear in advance so it'd be easier to speed up afterwards should the need arise to quickly stop), but if I clearly see there are no cars or pedestrians in sight I'd just coast right through.
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TheGrimSweeper
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Got to love the car parked in it already.
Brian Lilley went to University Ave to at rush hour yesterday to try and find Gridlock, instead finds traffic flowing super smoothly.
Chalks it up to "Mondays don't count"
Brian Lilley went to University Ave to at rush hour yesterday to try and find Gridlock, instead finds traffic flowing super smoothly.
Chalks it up to "Mondays don't count"
Van647
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but there is hardly any cars or traffic on that road either ! Is the bike lane causing any grid lock .. No !
TheGrimSweeper
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He will keep going back until he finds that 1 hour or so where there is some slight traffic, then present that as being the case 100% of the time.
The realstory:
"University Ave had some slight traffic for 1 hour out of the 168 hours in a week, so we need to spend millions to fix a street with congestion only 0.6% of the time!!"