Finch West Line 6 LRT

[jordanmkasla2009]

IIRC, the multi use path under that CP Rail line is also still not done? I suggested to the Toronto Star a while back to do an investigation on that part due to the lack of accountability but haven't seen anything yet. Maybe @atakagi1 can help?

this is mostly due to CPKC always being uncooperative about any kind of construction work being done anywhere near their tracks. Especially along the MacTier Sub as it's their only connection to their intermodal terminal in Vaughan

 

[CityRider]

Having taken this exact route last month on a Sunday I can attest to the accuracy of this pacing. It was a bit surreal seeing the empty LRT trains out the window go by. But the bus does stop a LOT.

Is it? Even right now at 7 pm on the weekend, from Humber College to Finch West is 38 minutes.

But at PM peak, the 36 is 54 minutes for that 11 km! That's 12. 5 km.hr. I know we've tossed around some low speeds for Line 6. But I've never seen any that low. And somehow westbound is even lower at 59 minutes - if it's on time!

Where does this "faster than LRT" come from?

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[drum118]

Nov 20

The pinch nevers in the should caused the shakiness

 

[drum118]

Nov 20
The pinch nevers in the should caused the shakiness

Len issues

 

[jmi22]

Nov 20

Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. Light rail was never going to be able to compete in terms of regional travel with private vehicles using 400 series highways, but "losing the race" on the LRT's own corridor should really prompt some introspection if such modes are worth the billions going forward. Even on the subways worst day's, the chances of them losing a 1-1 race along Bloor, Yonge or Danforth against a car on the same street is one in a million.

This will definitely be an improvement for existing riders (excluding the objectively worse weather protection offered by the LRT stations) but by no means should we expect an uptick in "choice riders" taking transit, a goal which subways undoubtedly accomplish.

 

[nfitz]

Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself.

How do you know it doesn't, now we've established just how much faster it is than the buses at peak - or even on a Sunday (to my surprise).

 

[dowlingm]

this is mostly due to CPKC always being uncooperative about any kind of construction work being done anywhere near their tracks. Especially along the MacTier Sub as it's their only connection to their intermodal terminal in Vaughan

They have signed a construction agreement (per the recent board minutes) with Metrolinx for the St Clair UPX station so clearly there is some work on/by the MacTier that CPKC can live with, in the right circumstances

 

[youngblood]

 

[TwoWheelPoli]

Jun Nogami wrote about the bike lanes along the Finch West LRT corridor earlier today. One irritating thing which stood out was how the multi-use path on Norfinch doesn't connect with the Finch Hydro Corridor!

Closing the loop: the northwest corner

After the recent closing the loop ride, I wanted to follow up with a ride that explored the northwest corner. I had heard that there were new bike lanes along Finch that were put in as part of the …

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[PL1]

Has the TTC posted anything saying that they're opening Dec 7, or ar they being given the lodestone by Metrolinx?

 

[jmi22]

How do you know it doesn't, now we've established just how much faster it is than the buses at peak - or even on a Sunday (to my surprise).

I suggest you watch the video that I replied to. It will likely answer your question.

 

[Obsidian]

Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. Light rail was never going to be able to compete in terms of regional travel with private vehicles using 400 series highways, but "losing the race" on the LRT's own corridor should really prompt some introspection if such modes are worth the billions going forward. Even on the subways worst day's, the chances of them losing a 1-1 race along Bloor, Yonge or Danforth against a car on the same street is one in a million.

This will definitely be an improvement for existing riders (excluding the objectively worse weather protection offered by the LRT stations) but by no means should we expect an uptick in "choice riders" taking transit, a goal which subways undoubtedly accomplish.

Finch West was already the busiest bus route in the city. attractive riders wouldn't be a problem with this lines.
Weston to Jane is where car traffic is a problem so the LRT will blow past cars at this section.

 

[nfitz]

I suggest you watch the video that I replied to. It will likely answer your question.

You've replied to multiple video post(s), some lengthy. Your claim that the LRT doesn't stand a chance to beat the Bus appears to be egregiously false, based on the existing bus schedule. Perhaps you could at least offer a precis to justify your apparently very wrong claim?

Or are you simply echoing obviously false news without actually fact-checking it?

 

[Bojaxs]

Traffic was light, but really disappointing the LRT doesn't stand a chance of out competing private vehicle travel times on Finch itself. Light rail was never going to be able to compete in terms of regional travel with private vehicles using 400 series highways, but "losing the race" on the LRT's own corridor should really prompt some introspection if such modes are worth the billions going forward. Even on the subways worst day's, the chances of them losing a 1-1 race along Bloor, Yonge or Danforth against a car on the same street is one in a million.

This will definitely be an improvement for existing riders (excluding the objectively worse weather protection offered by the LRT stations) but by no means should we expect an uptick in "choice riders" taking transit, a goal which subways undoubtedly accomplish.

If I could give this post a million "thumbs up", I would. This is precisely what I've been preaching for years now.

The argument being made now for the LRT's is "they're faster than a bus stuck in rush hour traffic". Well then why didn't we simply construct bus lanes? Then the argument becomes about "capacity". If people want "capacity", they'll choose their personal vehicles. Especially when they see how slow these things moves. It often feels that transit enthusiasts place too much emphasis on "capacity" and not enough on "speed". The minds of transit enthusiasts and the minds of commuters are worlds apart. Different priorities. Or at least it feels that way in Ontario.

When "choice riders" see slow transit, they see something that doesn't respect their "time", and therefore will opt to continue driving.

Montreal's REM won't have this problem. I guarantee it. It'll attract a ton of "choice riders".

 

[6ixGod]

I've always been confused over the French translations.

Finch Ouest?